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Qatari news network Al Jazeera is stridently denying any link to Gaza-based journalist Abdallah Aljamal, amid unverified rumors that hostage Noa Argamani had been held at his home in central Gaza’s Nuseirat.

According to various rumors, some of which have been picked up by Hebrew-language media with varying levels of credulity, Argamani was held at the home of Dr. Ahmed Aljamal and his son Abdallah. They also claim that Abdallah is an employee of Al-Jazeera.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Non-ironically, maybe they aren't worth protecting either.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

On one hand I can sympathize with that sentiment, on the other hand, I can’t imagine the horrors that would have occurred if the Axis powers had been allowed to conquer the world.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Axis Powers that were also killing lots of children and thus not worth protecting?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, the Allied powers also firebombed civilian population centers, which was absolutely horrific.

Edit to add sources:

Hamburg -37,000 civilians

Dresden ~25,000 civilians

Tokyo ~100,000 civilians

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what that has to do with my point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, mostly that the Allied forces were fighting to protect their own nations, not just against the Axis powers. In doing so, they also caused death and destruction to innocents.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Again, doesn't change what I said- if you have to kill thousands of children based on the claim that you're protecting your nation- something the Axis powers themselves did- then maybe your nation isn't worth protecting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

if you have to kill thousands of children based on the claim that you're protecting your nation

My point is that this was something the Allied powers did as well, and they were the only thing that stopped the Axis powers. The scale and intent could be argued, but even though military conflicts are extremely horrific, I don’t always see a viable alternative.

To be clear, I’m also not saying that the specifics of the Israel-Palestine conflict are the same as WWII.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

A viable alternative would be a one-world government, but that is the worst thing imaginable to a large number of people.

As a Star Trek fan, I look forward to it.