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The new standards are part of a broad push to get more Americans into electric vehicles, and reduce the environmental cost of driving.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why don’t politicians ever set these targets in their own terms?

This is six years away from when he’ll get back in, effectively punting the problem to the next president.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

R&D, engineering, manufacturing process changes, supply chain changes (I think this pretty much requires hybrid) all the way from mining, etc takes time. The world can't change on a dime.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What targets exactly? Should every policy be limited to just their term? That completely removes the possibility of any target that takes a long time to reach. It would be a waste of time and resources to do smaller increments and then revisit them.

Almost every policy put into place will have effects that future presidents have to deal with. Do you actually care about this in principle or do you just not like this policy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How do you stay accountable when you don’t set limits in your own term?

I don’t mind long-term goals, we need them, but there should be milestones and frankly I’m surprised it’s apparently an unpopular opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

How do you stay accountable when you don’t set limits in your own term?

You don't. Even if they're in office, there's nothing you can do. What do you think they'd do to Biden? Jail him? Fine him? You vote in people who align with what you want put in place, then have the separate parts of government check each other.

I don’t mind long-term goals, we need them, but there should be milestones

I addressed that in my previous comment. Nobody's wasting time and resources. Such a limitation would cripple every president and make them damn near useless. They'd spend most of their time in office recalculating milestones, which would be incredibly small, at best, and impossible at worst.

frankly I’m surprised it’s apparently an unpopular opinion.

Because it kinda indicates that you haven't really thought about this or you're just not aware of how things happen in life. You're coming off as management that's never worked on the floor and have no idea about what's actually feasible. It's a good way to have everybody despise you.

Using this as an example, let's say it was done at the start of Biden's 1st year, what percentage should he set per what time period, and do you really expect car manufacturers to recreate their vehicles each period?

Manufacturers need time to meet targets. And the final percentage would be incredibly small, because it would be only four years. Whenever you see a product hit the market, development has starts years prior.

[–] independantiste -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Biden for sure won’t get back in he’ll be like 260 years old at that point

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was referring to 2025.

That’s why I said six years before 2031.

[–] independantiste 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Oh I see woopsies

.He’ll still be 256 years old then