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They really wanna do everything except pay them properly. Teachers, doctors and nurses should be getting paid like bankers.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Teachers, doctors and nurses should be getting paid like bankers.

It's a nice idea, but where would the money come from?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your thinking is constrained by what you're accustomed to. The reality is that as time goes on, more and more jobs are going to become obsolete but we'll continue to need teachers, doctors and nurses. Without them, either we die or society dies. If you closed the tax loopholes, you could easily pay for doctors, nurses and teachers without an issue.

But the reality is we need to pay for more than just them because more and more jobs will cease to exist, so in the long-term, we need to end monetary wealth as a concept.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, as a teacher I'd take more planning time over more money

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How would you go about it? Shorter teaching days? Shorter teaching weeks? Half the load (so double the teachers)? Something I haven't thought of?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Double planning time - it's currently half a day a week, but I'd bring it up to a full day a week, so, yes, you'd need to employ a few more cover teachers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So then we're back to making the occupation an attractive one and quality of life is a massive part of that. Nobody will want to teach if it means they have to struggle to pay their bills.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would say it's fairly well paid, most teachers (outside of London) don't struggle to pay their bills. But we do massively struggle to have a reasonable work life balance that doesn't suck all of the life out of people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

This is what I get for only befriending and dating London based teachers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

The same magic money tree that pays for all the bombs and missiles?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The exact same way the government pays for anything else, be it subsidies to artificially lower the cost of corn or milk, more equipment that the US military has asked Congress to stop buying, forever wars over oil procurement, world class unlimited healthcare for politicians, subsidies to the ultra wealthy and corporations by way of waiving their tax liability, bloated contracts for projects that still end up exceeding their budgets, increased pay for members of the military who quit with the goal of immediately getting rehired as a civilian contractor doing the same job for more pay, roads, teachers, conservation efforts, airport security, border security, disease research, energy research and nuclear materials transportation, space research, etc.

Taxes

You're gonna pay taxes regardless. The government uses that to pay for so much stuff--some shit, others useful. Wouldn't it be nice if we diverted some of the shit spending to nice spending?

Edit: I realize this comment is US centric, and this ain't exactly the right community for it, but we have the same problems in the States and the same oft-repeated ill-conceived retorts about paying for stuff. My final point remains true. You'll still pay taxes, why don't you prefer they go to good things?

[–] Madbrad200 7 points 8 months ago