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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah man, I was in the Navy on a LHD, shit comes with helicopters and even an amphibious landing craft, and the US pretty much always has one in the area.

There was never a single need for the dock, it was always a stalling tactic.

Like, there is just no valid reason the US ever needs a fucking dock to get equipment/supplies onto the shore.

For fucks sake, we were "air dropping" aid out of airplanes from bomb height like care packages in Call of Duty....

We could have been sitting it down directly into a controlled forward operating base and letting the aid be distributed like civilized people instead of whoever shows up with weapons first gets all of it.

Nothing about any of this has made sense if Biden actually wanted to help and not just make it look like he was helping.

The US military is not this incompetent

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

The dock was always about being seen to help resolve the humanitarian crisis, but not actually get anyone linked to US policy inanywayshapeorform involved directly on the ground in Gaza.

Like others have said, if the US/Egypt/Arab nations actually wanted to solve the famine? Aid convoy with military escort. “We’re gonna help these people, try and stop us” and let the IDF fafo. Hamas may not play along, but they have and are coordinating with aid agencies all the time for convoys.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What orders would you give to these soldiers in case they were approached by a large mob, some of them armed?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have you been on US military foreign aid missions before?

It's not a new thing, we do it all the fucking time.

Why do you think Palestinians are going to behave like a fucking hoard of zombies?

That's carries some pretty racist connotations...

They can handle queuing up for aid especially if it's being handed out systematically and not dropped from thousands of feet to starving masses.

Like, just not waiting 7 months into this genocide would have made things more orderly.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd advise you to take a look at the drone footage from the crowd swarming the aid trucks that led to that massacre west of Gaza City a while ago

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/09/middleeast/gaza-food-aid-convoy-deaths-eyewitness-intl-investigation-cmd/index.html

So, are you going to let them fire into the crowd or not?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Like, just not waiting 7 months into this genocide would have made things more orderly.

Also, read articles before you link them...

Jihad Abu Watfa was standing in the rubble along a dark stretch of coastal road southwest of Gaza City when he saw Israeli military tanks approaching. He began recording on his phone just as a heavy barrage of gunfire flashed before his eyes.

“We are now under siege, a tank is beside us and it’s shelling,” Abu Watfa could be heard saying in the video, which he shared with CNN.

The 27-year-old was surrounded by hundreds of other Palestinians who had gathered for an aid delivery on February 29 when Israeli soldiers accompanying the humanitarian convoy opened fire. More than 100 people were killed and 700 injured, according to Gaza’s health ministry.

The IDF opening fire is what caused the death...

Any issues before the first shot was because the people who were committing the genocide against those people who were waiting for aid were pointing fucking tanks at them...

How do you not understand how people would be on fucking edge?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you think these people are less on edge today?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Are they still in danger of being murdered by genocidal far right extremists?

Yes.

Would they be less afraid if Biden did the right thing and provided aid and the assurance of safety at least while it was distributed?

Also yes.

This ain't complicated, but you keep "just asking questions"...

I'm starting to think that none of this has any chance of being productive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

You mean like when they do military parades just about anywhere in the US?