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[–] [email protected] 157 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Opinion: When you are trying to build a community it is more important to use whatever platform your users can be found on than to be a purist.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 months ago (1 children)

but discord is simply less accessible than any other option. I can't even login without identifying 25 bicycles lmao

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Putting everything on discord makes information unsearchable via search engines, which is objectivily not great. This recent habit is contributing to killing the web.

On a more subjective note, I just don't like it. On the top of my head : Confusing interface, wont' shut up about nitro, requires a phone number.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

It's kind of stupid this even has to exist tbh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand what this is, can you explain? Apologies if it's obvious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is a bot that these communities on discord can invite to specific channels that will index the discussion to provide a search engine interface. Ideally search engines could leverage the answeroverflow API to help people get access to the technical discussion that now happens in discord instead of forums or mailinglists which do come up in search engine results.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

also data collection

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, discord is a great way to help organize a community wiki.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Opinion: Not if that community advertises itself to know/care about open source. Using a proprietary, privacy unfriendly service which uses predatory marketing to get people to spend money on bs stuff and arbitrarily paywall functionalities is both anti open source and anti people. Its enabling those companies. One could maybe argue for a strict bridge which only server to connect those who resist foss platforms.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I've built an off-grid support group. Join us on Facebook."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago
[–] jnk 20 points 2 months ago

Counterpoint: If said community is about a certain type of software, decisions over the type of platform matter more than popularity within teenagers. Coherence is important.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, i can't be there because the only provider doesn't accept my (mandatory) phone number.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

My phone is set up as a tablet. It has no usable number.

I think it would be neat for Discord to enter the millennium.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

trying to build a community

I honestly think that's the big part there. You can build a great app but it doesn't matter if no one is using it and you don't get feed back or it's not shared around.

So, here we are trying to use the newest virtual 3rd space to create a community so that there is people will feel engaged in the product and share it around to add more.

But that's also an issue with discord. It wants to be a social space more than a useful space and it usually gets entirely dominated by a few users with others less inclined to add in. It's also accessible but not easy necessarily to stumble into if you are outside of the community trying to look into it more.

It just does the wrong job, slower and less efficient than old school forums or wikis, but it's the tools we have to use in this less efficient connected Internet of the now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Set up a Matrix space, bridge the channels to Discord. Everyone wins.

(But don't use IM outside of its useful scope regardless)

[–] iltg 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

if you're trying to build a chatroom then any chat software goes but if you're trying to build a community you should probably use something searchable and indexed, like real community software

also i find it laughable that users must already be on such platform, by your logic all communities should be mailing lists

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

You may find it laughable but it is what it is. Most people does not enjoy signing up for specific product forums. It's much easier to just add yet another discord server to the list.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Lot of bridge bots for linking Matrix and Discord along with IRC

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

When you are trying to build a community

...Don't use community software, got it.