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What followed was a wave of shooting and arson attacks across 11 Palestinian villages in which a dozen homes and more than 100 cars were torched, thousands of animals were slaughtered, four people were shot dead and scores of others were seriously wounded.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That would just make things worse. Trump would be worse for those protesting Israel's actions and for Palestinians themselves.

https://wapo.st/3wSKnDY

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's because of this Pavlovian BUT TRUMP reaction that israel is committing Genocide right now.

Than you for proving my point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My link is literally Trump talking about Israel and Palestine. It isn't a "but Trump is bad" article, it's directly relevant to this issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The israeli Post pretending that Biden isn't currently having pro Palestine protesters brutally beaten up by the cops is conveniently not highlighted

Both of them would do what Biden is doing right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The president does not control the police nor campus police or campus administration. It would be a hell of a lot easier across the board if they did.

Can you prove that the Biden administration is behind the persecution of the protestors, specifically, and not individual police departments? Trump sounds like he would want to order the national guard or military to do this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I have no direct evidence, but it's not at all far-fetched. The Obama administration set up a coordinated effort to share intelligence and plan tactics for the crackdown on Occupy Wall Street across the FBI, state and local police forces, and the banks themselves. The uniformity and brutality of the response to the university anti-genocide protests is... curious, at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

it's absolutely hillarious that you require concrete evidence of actions Biden doing something yet Trump only has to say words. The Democrats used the police violence! They pumped rubber bullets into peaceful protesters like no tomorrow! Biden condoned the police violence and praised it. Painting all protesters as a violent mob. Genocide Joe went full fascist mode during the demonstrations and we're somehow still in pretend land.

Biden condemns campus protest violence: No ‘right to cause chaos’

Furthermore the Democrats were literally bribed by the israelis to call in the police on the protesters to violently shut them down. Many of the Zionists bribing the Democrats are the exact same people that bribe Republicans.

American business leaders and billionaires set up a Whatsapp group to shape public opinion on Israel's war in Gaza and urged New York City's mayor to use police to disperse a pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University.

American business leaders and billionaires set up a Whatsapp group to shape public opinion on Israel's war in Gaza and urged New York City's mayor to use police to disperse a pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University.

The group was set up on 12 October, days after Hamas's surprise attack on southern Israel, to "change the narrative" on Israel, including by conveying "the atrocities committed by Hamas... to all Americans".

Among the business leaders in the group were the CEO of Starbucks, Howard Schultz, Dell CEO and founder Michael Dell, and Joshua Kushner, a financier and brother to Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're confusing a lot of groups together here. Trying to influence the NYC mayor and public opinion is very different from bribing Democrats as a whole. IIRC the mayor is quite right wing too, like a Manchin type.

There's also a significant difference here -- Trump is saying what he would do. You're claiming what Biden has already done, and your evidence is a public statement that he made -- which don't get me wrong, was a shitty one to make. You haven't proved though that Biden or Democrats as a whole told the police to do that and shoot with rubber bullets and painted them all as violent. In your own link, Biden makes a very clear differentiation between peaceful and violent protest, and he says the former is a bedrock American principle. Your own link contradicts what you're describing and doesn't support your claims. It says blatantly that Biden won't use the national guard, which is the actual enforcing power that the president has.

Come on, there's plenty to criticize Biden and Democrats on with Israel without making leaps and lumping everyone together. I have respect for a lot of the points and arguments you've made in the past, but this isn't it. This is just sensationalism not grounded in reality.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

I could bring up Biden being the top recipient of AIPAC money as well.

I have also proven that the Democrats were intentionally violently repressing peaceful protests against Genocide.

I even posted a video of them pumping rubber bullets into protesters before look https://lemmy.world/post/14942817

There is plenty to criticize Biden and the democrats on regarding israel. The Democrats violently repressing peaceful protests CCP style is one of those things.

Fearmongering that Trump would do something does not have the same impact if the Dems are already doing it.

Third party all the way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No. This shit had been going on well before Trump

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And it's going to continue going on because both sides are controlled by israel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not entirely. There's a lot of pro Israel money but a shift in public perception may well shift the political calculus

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Biden has been trying to throw his election chances for the past 7 months. And the Republican side isn't shifting much to begin with they love killing brown people. At this point the only thing that will shift is how hard Biden tries to gaslight people that he is wagging his finger at Netanyahu.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Not going to disagree with the fact that Biden seems to be doing his best to lose