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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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America’s premier pronatalists on having ‘tons of kids’ to save the world: ‘There are going to be countries of old people starving to death’ (www.theguardian.com)

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The highlight for me is coming up with some weird pseudoscience justification for why it’s okay to hit your kids.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The Collinses are atheists; they believe in science and data, studies and research. Their pronatalism is born from the hyper-rational effective altruism movement

This is just gonna be eugenics, isn’t it?

Malcolm describes their politics as “the new right – the iteration of conservative thought that Simone and I represent will come to dominate once Trump is gone.”

What’s that now? Neo-alt-right? You can’t just add another fucking prefix anytime your stupid fascist movement goes off rails.

One of the reasons why I chose to have only have two children is because I couldn’t afford to give more kids a good life; the bigger home, the holidays, the large car and everything else they would need.

Yeah, what about giving them love or a warm relationship, or, you know, time?

And then they wonder why those generations have shitty relationships with their parents when they seriously believe that what they need is a big fucking car, as if that’s the variable that was missing in all of this.

Excuse me while I go and hug my daughter. I need to de-rationalize myself after reading this.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago

I love how the journalist just reprints their reskinned Great Replacement theory at face value.

And importing people from Africa to support a mostly non-working white population – because you didn’t put in labour to support non-working white people – has really horrible optics.

Ah, so the reason you’re concerned about falling white birth rates and don’t want immigration is because it’s racist to allow “people from Africa” to immigrate to your country. Got it.

I appreciate that the journalist was shocked by the bad parenting but I’d have appreciated a little more fact checking on the naked racist conspiracies.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

What’s that now? Neo-alt-right?

I assume it is neoreaction. Not sure if you are a recent poster here, or were aware of sneerclub when it was on reddit but we talked about NRx there every now and then. (Not a fan).

I don't know if the Collins are NRx, what I do know is that neoreactionary podcasters love the Collins. (According to a quick google search). And bonus for David Gerard, Grimes has reached out to the Collins source is the grimezs long post on Grimes her links to all this shit

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

they are sponsored by Thiel, so 'ave a bleedin' guess

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ow yeah, it certainly paints them in a very bad light, and I will not argue against others calling them NRx, or neo-nazis, I just like a little bit more proof myself because im a bit pedantic at times, but in practice it doesn't really matter if the 'we worry about great replacement r-strategists(*) racists' are NRx/nazis or not).

*: For those just tuning in. (Turn back! Stop reading! Go away, innocence once lost cannot be regained!) claiming non-white people are r-strategists while white people are K-strategists is a big far right foghorn. (wiki page on the theory) In their bs theory they ignore that this is about differences between species (of course they are also racists so yeah, this isn't hypocritical on their part, just a sign of racism), and r-strats are physically impossible for humans, as we don't have enough nipples + we take too long to mature etc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

yeah, at that point we're past "quacks like a duck" and "precise subspecies of mallard" into which groups are hanging out in which ponds this week

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah and a lot of “precise subspecies of mallard” people don't really seem to care that the ducks keep attacking the children playing in the park and have learned to shit on peoples heads. In fact, they start to call the people who are being attacked by the ducks, ducks themselves (some of the 'worried about subspecies' people even look suspiciously like 3 ducks in a trenchcoat).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Well damn, I used to lurk on old sneer club, but I gotta admit I missed that particular rabbit hole so far.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What’s that now? Neo-alt-right? You can’t just add another fucking prefix anytime your stupid fascist movement goes off rails.

It reminds me of how terrible sports teams will frequently change their logo and uniforms. (e.g. Vanderbilt's University's gridiron football team). Obviously, their lack of success is a branding problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

These idiots are atheist and conservatives? Morons, they're morons. The only thing that conservatives do to atheist is put them up against the wall when they have the chance. You throw it nationalism and it's a damn guarantee

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They'll stop being atheists and start fully being "tradwivies" the very instant their ingroup requires it. Give or take 7 seconds after the purges begin.

They aint nothing but disengenious.