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Someone stop the ride, I want to get off (midwest.social)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So first a whole bunch of people got up and said, I'm never voting for Biden because he ruined the economy and fucked up on climate change and made marijuana illegal again and did family separation and caused Covid and also personally did a genocide and is super happy about the war in Gaza because it's exactly what he wanted

For the record: this is a strawman. You know that saying about Republicans always accusing others of the things they're guilty of themselves? I would suggest not following the Republican playbook.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I exaggerated for humor, but people did absolutely say:

Biden ruined the economy
Biden fucked up on climate change
Biden betrayed us by not decriminalizing marijuana after he said he would
"Separating families at the border" got worse under Biden
Trump's Covid policy was amenable to people steering him the right way whereas Biden cancelled a bunch of the safety things we needed
Biden is the one doing the genocide

Aside from the genocide, the last few were so laughable that it's easy to conclude I just made them up as a pure strawman, but yes I absolutely had people tell me the un-exaggerated version of them.

Would it be better if I spelled out exactly what were the literal things people told to me instead? Yeah maybe I shouldn't "joke" in this way if I'm gonna be saying other people are using a strawman.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Sure, and other people also had very different criticisms of him than your list that aren't as easy to dismiss. The strawman is you cherry-picking these to argue against in order to demonstrate some blanket point about people who don't want to vote for Biden, when only one of these is the actual point of the conversation (and not in the hyperbolized way you presented it).

So yeah, I would 100% suggest not committing a logical fallacy while you're criticizing others for committing that logical fallacy.