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They're even drafting Olympic athletes?
He volunteered.
Why would Olympic athletes not be drafted?
Because Olympic athletes getting blown up in a dumb war is bad for morale.
The Ukrainian government clearly reckons that famous people getting special treatment is worse
God I'm tired of Lemmy.ml users
Is well-known Olympic athletes being blown up... good for morale?
Im not talking about this specific situation, I'm talking about Lemmy.ml and it's constant bias and propaganda.
I want the fediverse to succeed, and I think that's the biggest problem currently standing in it's way. I don't even tell anyone I use it yet because it's too embarrassing.
I'm confused. I thought lemmy.ml was like lemmy.world and lemm.ee - one of these big "general purpose" instances that new users would pick if they don't have a specific reason to pick a "specialized" instance? Since when they did become warring factions?
lemmy.ml is where all the tankies from lemmygrad.ml have their alts. It's also run by the same people and their worldnews community is a joke moderation-wise, as in you can catch a ban for pointing something out the linked article itself states if it doesn't vibe with the mod's tankie narrative (say, that Ukraine isn't claiming Russian territories it describes as "historically Ukrainian" for itself, it's just calling them historically Ukrainian because that's what they are).
lemm.ee OTOH has some rules tankies might occasionally run afoul of. Also our admin is Estonian, traditionally not a people particularly enamoured with Russian imperialism.
lemmy.ml once was a default instance, before the reddit exodus it was the only big one, but it seems users are draining off of it because, well, see above.
.ml is full of Marxist/Leninists, and while they are not as full on crazy tankies as most users from hexbear, they generally tend to skew that way. Not everyone, but there's a theme.
Wasn't that lemmygrad?
It's both of the .ml instances. IMHO the majority are not actual Marxist-Leninist/Communist, it's just a facade they use to spread propaganda.
I have no problem with communists, but I hate lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and Hexbear for spreading authoritarian propaganda.
It was indeed what I thought of. But from what mr kangaroo fucker says the point still stand.
Fair enough
Might be bad for morale, but I assure you it would strengthen my resolve.
Never heard of a thing called a "celebrated war hero" and what it can do for the morale of ordinary conscripts?
See Mohammed Ali. See Elvis Presley.
Ali was convicted of draft dodging when he very publicly burned his draft card and refused enlistment. He was arrested, in Houston, after repeatedly refusing to acknowledge his name during induction. Then he spent the next eight months fighting the charge of draft dodging as a conscientious objector, ultimately appealing and winning his defection in a SCOTUS decision. Along the way, all his titles were revoked.
Presley got an absolute sweetheart deal and spent his two years "at war", living in a West German hotel, recording for RCA in his ample downtime, getting addicted to amphetamines thanks to a ahem helpful senior officer, and then being discharged with honors after being promoted to sergeant as part of a giant photo-op.
It does not look like Pielieshenko's experiences were comparable in either respect.
Rather irrelevant to the original question. Any man can be drafted, whether they go or not is another question we aren’t addressing here. But thanks for that history brush up!
In both cases, they were seen as subversives who reactionaries were glad to be rid of.
It's not an automatic system, they stood in front of a draft board who ruled they'll either join the army or go to prison.
I'm too old and a foreign national, but since my late teen years I was committed to doing a ted nugent if it came to it.
Nah, dude went out Patrick Tillman style.