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Sometimes they'll offer their opinions as "proof" that they're "right"
It's expensive, so often vegans are people with resources others don't have and yet they act like this isn't a thing
They're right that it's way better for the environment and it annoys me that I'm contradicting my own values on that point
There's an abuse of science at times, which always bothers me, even in the name of a good cause. If you're right, let the truth do the talking.
Just off the top of my head...
Not all vegans, etc... no actual hate involved for anyone
Some vegans make the argument that it's not more expensive, and fresh ingredients are pretty cheap. This ignores the time it takes to actually make dishes with fresh ingredients. A lot of people that are less well off don't have the time to spare.
I agree. It doesn't cost a lot to buy lentils and make dal, but it takes time.
The problem is really our entire food system is geared towards profit and the excessive suffering that comes from that. If you want to eat meat a little more ethically...you have to spend more or have the time to raise animals yourself.
Vegans vs meat-eaters is distraction from humans vs industrialized food. Vegans are correct about the suffering of animals, but those that focus on preaching to convert would find their time best spent being compassionate to those that can't make changes.
Some small changes include:
I mean to do it all at once is not easy. Making small changes over time can improve health and save money. Thinking about the suffering of the animals can be detrimental, because you may associate making vegan choices with thoughts of animal suffering. I used to subscribe to a vegan magazine, but half of it was amazing recipes, and the other half was distressing animal stories.
mushy peas (use margarine or olive oil instead of butter)
mushroom "forcemeat" and other substitutes
dal recipe
You're not a terrible human if you eat meat! It's not easy to change, but doing a little bit can go a long way. See if you can cut it down ❤
I've been trying to cut down my family's red meat consumption for health and environmental reasons. I've got a 16 month old so I haven't been making great progress, but I digress. I think my end goal is eventually pescetarianism. I feel no overwhelming need to cut out all animal products. Dairy and fish are definitely here to stay.
Actually, overfishing is already a problem
And the treatment of farm workers is a problem, too. I'm not trying to be perfect.