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What I think could make Lemmy superior to Reddit is the ability to create themed-instances that are all linked together which feels like the entire point. I've noticed that a lot of instances are trying to be a catch-all Reddit replacement by imitating specific subs which is understandable given the circumstances but seems like it's not taking advantage of the full power that Lemmy could have.

Imagine for a moment that instances were more focus-based. Instead of having communities that are all mostly unrelated we had entire instances that are focused on one specific area of expertise or interest. Imagine a LOTR instance that had many sub-communities (in this case "communities" would be the wrong way to look at it, it would be more like categories) that dealt with different subjects in the LOTR universe: books, movies, lore, gaming, art, etc all in the same instance.

Imagine the types of instances that could be created with more granular categories within to better guide conversations: Baseball, Cars, Comics, Movies, Tech etc.

A tech instance could have dedicated communities for news, programming, dev, IT, Microsoft, Apple, iOS, linux. Or you could make it even more granular by having a dedicated instance for each of those because there's so many categories that could be applied to each.

What are your thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Hopping between instances would have to be simplified significantly.

[–] feduser934 8 points 1 year ago (18 children)

I don't understand what you mean. Isn't the point of federation that one account on one instance is as good as an account on every instance? I've never felt the need to hop between instances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (17 children)

OP's post is about having specialized instances, making hopping around necessary. It's not convenient enough as it is.

[–] feduser934 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

By hopping around, do you mean changing your account to one on another instance, or viewing a list of communities on an instance, or something else?

I don't feel that changing accounts is necessary because of the magic of federation. But I don't know how to view a list of communities in an instance without leaving your home instance. That would be a cool feature, but is only really important when you're initially picking all your subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Exactly, it's really inconvenient right now. And it's really important for the usability of what OP suggested.

If I simply link to a cool community I found, like https://beehaw.org/c/programming, you can't follow that link conveniently if you're from another instance.

And I highly disagree with only being important at the start. It's a big hurdle that stifles growth right now and in the future.

[–] this 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed, what needs to happen is an option that allows users to follow links from foreign instances in their home instance seamlessly. I have to imagine with the ramped up amount of development in lemmy that some of the devs must be working on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can definitely sub to external communities from a separate instance, I have a bunch from Lemmy.ml show up in my world feed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I never claimed otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes you can subscribe to and read/reply to that community from any lemmy instance. You just need to add it if the instance doesn't already federate with it.

Go to 'Communities' at the top of your instance homepage then in the search bar put the url of the community you want to add. (example: https://beehaw.org/c/programming)

This next part is undocumented, and might just be a bug. But this is the magic part.

On the next page, change the top search dropdown from Communities to All.

You will see the community you want to sub to in the results. It will say something like.

[email protected] - 0 subscribers

Click it, then on the top right pane click "Subscribe"

Done

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Jesus Christ. I'm well aware of how you can subscribe to other instances. This is about convenience, with problems arising from situations like I described above.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, that's not right You can follow any community from any instance with your account, doesn't matter where you registered your account. I just subscribed to [https://beehaw.org/c/programming] (/c/[email protected]) from lemmy.pt user account

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

this is buggy. Pardon the nsfw, but it doesn't work for gonewild@lemmynsfw .com

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Read what I wrote, please.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's more of the interface you're using a fault for not interpreting links correctly - it should be obvious that url/c/communityname should be interpreted as a community, just as [email protected] (right now jerboa is interpreting it as an email address) should also be interpreted as one, and if you remove the ! It should be interpreted as a username.

But most interfaces are open source, so give them time and someone (maybe even you) can submit a pull request that fixes it. That's the beauty of open source - in time the bugs get ironed out because it's a collaborative effort.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If I simply link to a cool community I found, like https://beehaw.org/c/programming, you can’t follow that link conveniently if you’re from another instance.

I saw that something like [email protected] should work. It doesn't work for me now though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's the string you need to put in the search and go through there. Clunky and inconvenient.

The funny part is that the search also returns posts where that link works, but don't know what the issue here is. Regardless, copy+pasteing a universal link should be an easy thing to do and not require manual typing.

Edit: Okay, so to do those links you have to type it out like you would a reddit link:

[[email protected]](/c/[email protected]) which results in [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So it's actually the /c/[email protected] link that make it works like federation, so the '!' has no purpose? It's weird, I imagined it like @ and # at other platforms, and actually at lemmy's GitHub page readme you can see they mention the tagging just like that, like it works the same as other platforms. What are we missing here hahaha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don’t know how to view a list of communities in an instance without leaving your home instance.

On lemmy:

  1. Click 'Communities' (top left menu)
  2. Search using the search box (top right)
  3. Select 'Communities' from the drop down (top left)
  4. Make sure to toggle 'All' (*not *'Subscribed' or 'Local').

This will show you communities matching your search term from all instances*.

You can then subscribe to communities regardless on which instance they live and use them seemlessly, regardless of wether they are local or not.


*) It will show you communities matching your search term from all instances, if your instance has already discovered that community.

If it has not, it shows 'No Results'. You can force it by some exclamation mark shenanigans which I haven't understood well enough to explain. After that, your instance knows about that community in the other instance and will show it in future search results. I think as soon as one person from your instance force-discovers a community from another instance, that community becomes searchable for everyone on your instance.

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