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The aircraft flew up to speeds of 1,200mph. DARPA did not reveal which aircraft won the dogfight.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For sure without humans the AI probably wins, assuming the instruments are good. This wasn't without humans, but it probably still wins.

I'm fairly certain most dogfights happen on instruments only at this point, so I don't see a chance the human won. The AI can react faster and more aggressively. It can also almost perfectly match a G-load profile limit (which could be much higher without humans on board) where a human needs to stay a little under to not do damage.

This is all assuming the data it was given was good and comprehensive, which I'm sure it was. It also likely trained in a simulation a lot too. This is one of those things AI is great for. Anything that requires doing something new and unique it can't handle, but if it just requires executing an output based on inputs, that's a perfect use case.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't know, one camera lead falls out and it's all over for the AI. The human still is going to be more adaptable than an AI and always will be until we have full true AGI.

Having said that if we ever do have AGI I 100% believe the US military would be stupid enough to put it in a combat aircraft.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

What if the pilot has a stroke?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah but a camera lead falling out isn’t normal

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What if we invent artificial gravity just so we can simulate pilot orientation and g forces while they sit still in a simulator?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No we have g-force production. Until we release those electrogravitics from the top secret labs we can’t actually simulate g forces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Electrogravitics seem like a conspiracy theory. Unless they've been around as long as human centrifuges, which DO simulate g-forces, I doubt that they'd be more economical even if they do exist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There is a connection between gravity and electromagnetics, but it's mostly through the stress-energy tensor giving photons momentum (and thus gravitational pull) but to use an EM field to measurable gravity you need absolutely insane amounts of energy.

You essentially need the literal inverse of a supermassive nuclear explosion (almost like a small star), because the gravitational effect of energy is equivalent to the gravitational effect of the mass which it would form if bound, and given E=mc^2 and the fact that nuclear bombs are small enough to barely have measurable gravity then the math means you need truly insane amounts of energy. (unless somebody can figure out a cheat to create directional pull with much less energy, but I strongly doubt it)

It's more plausible that somebody would be able to scale up "optical tweezers" to move large masses (directly depositing momentum of the energy field on an object) because that no longer involves the E=mc^2 equation, but it would be even more complicated by a HUGE factor than building the type of large supercooled electromagnets which already can make humans hover (due to water in the body being diamagnetic)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No centrifuges create g-forces. The forces you feel in a centrifuge are actual g-forces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Why do we need "authentic" g-forces to be "created"? As you've said, people already feel g-forces in centrifuges.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Whataboutism taken to its extreme there.

Hell, what if we invented warp drive that allowed us to teleport bombs directly into our enemies headquarters?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nonsense hypotheticals are not whataboutism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago