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[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I used to believe that common sense existed. You know, the usual stuff, like water is hot and fire is wet...

But then it occurred to me a few years ago, that what people believe to be 'common sense' are actually the things that nobody bothers to teach the next generation.

Meaning that common sense is only as common as one's elders teach you. So when the elders assume that you automatically know certain things, they won't bother teaching you.

Hence, common sense does not exist.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

One of the most difficult things to learn about past societies is how the average person lived, because nobody would actually write that down.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's happening again too. Gen X, boomers, and late millennials grew up thinking the young had a natural talent for computers, so they cut funding to typing and computer classes. Turns out we (the older tech talented folks) grew up with tech and were taught along the way with how to type and how to use computers.

Kids however are growing up on ipads, with UIs specifically designed to be easy to use. They're going into college not knowing how to type, how to make a PowerPoint, or even how to navigate a directory structure. Everyone assumed it was now common knowledge and it's setting them up for failure

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So true. I do a bit of teaching and kids have recently lost all computer skills I thought was basic.

"Where's my work gone?"

"Where did you save it?"

"What do you mean?"

"At the end of last lesson, show me exactly what you did"

"I clicked the X here, then clicked ok"

He clicked OK to the "do you want to close this document without saving?" box. He is 19. I had to give a really detailed lesson on how to save something to not only him, but half the students I taught this year.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, not reading the dialog box and getting upset when it does exactly what it said it would do.

An idea that transcends across generations.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe being bombarded with cookie banners and bullshit popups teaches you to ignore dialog boxes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Yes, that certently doesn't help, but this was a problem 30 years ago too.

Maybe we need dialog boxes to ocassionally ask to do stupid shit so people start reading them

  • "Invert colors for 5 minutes?"
  • "Make mouse gigantic for 5 min?"
  • "Turn screen upsidedown for a minute?"

Now you have to read.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

This actually sounds like fun!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think you just invented Windows 13.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Unfortuanlty if MS does it, they'll forget the time out part and we'll be the ones who have to undo it all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
  • "Turn screen upsidedown for a minute?"

Windows has had that feature (without the timeout obv) for a long time. I think it's the Intel IGA driver and CTRL-ALT-Arrow. A decade ago when I was working for a Community College IT dept, that (and the brightest pink MLP background you could find) was always what you'd get if you walked away and didn't lock your computer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Those kinds of pranks happened in school too. That, and tape under the mouse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I did IT support at one point, when they have an issue but don't know what the box said you know you're having a bad time!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And getting them to replicate the issue and NOT click through the error without reading it was a massive chore

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

You've just activated a form of PTSD in my brain. Stood next to someone and you see the box appear and they instantly click.

"What did that say?"

"Dunno"

Why click on it if you don't know????

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Would you say that common sense changes with the generations? What was once common is no longer, and what was uncommon becomes common?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

common sense changes with the generations

Not 4 generations from a massive pandemic that caused a financial collapse that caused widespread poverty and fomented the blame and hate that started the second big war and the generational stress that built, and we forgot why we fucking take vaccines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Whoa slown down there bud. If history doesn't repeeat every hundred or so years, how will the children be able to learn history? Think of the children! /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Once upon a time, it was considered common sense to tie your shoes. Then Velcro came along...

Wait, you weren't born knowing how to tie your shoes?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I guess about everyone (kids/teens) know how to tie their shoes, but something I saw in the last 10 years or so, kids, especially in big towns, does not how to ride a bike. I've seen teens who never rode a bike and don't know how.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Damn, really?

I almost wanted to comment about how cursive writing is getting lost these days instead, but damn, bicycles?!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tom Scott only learned to ride a bicycle two years ago: https://youtu.be/P7GKK3liv8M

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I was so surprised by that video. Of all people on earth, i for sure didn‘t think TOM doesn‘t know how to ride a bycicle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

LOL, I actually learned how to read analog clocks at age 9, by myself, just by watching the hands tick for like 5 minutes.

Still though, even that isn't common sense, I had to refer to prior education to know to associate the position of the hands with the hours, minutes and seconds numbers I had previously been taught.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah... I forgot about the common sense part. I was just thinking about changing skills.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I just figured out that nobody gives a flying fuck.

Matter of fact, how many ducks does it take to fuck a flying duck?