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While rebutting another post here on Lemmy, I ran into this. This says exactly what I want to say.

I am not a friend of Biden's Administration. I think they drug their feet over a variety of things ranging from holding Trump and his goons accountable for January 6th through rulemaking on issues like OTC Birth Control and abortion rights, and yes, I think he's too quick to please big business. But then I remember what the alternative is, and ... well, disappointed in Biden or not, I'm voting for him. Because my wife is a Black bisexual goth woman, four strikes under Team Pepe's tent. And I have my own strikes for marrying her as a White dude, and respecting her right to not have kids since she doesn't want them is another strike against me. And I care about my Non-Christian, Gay, Transgender, and Minority friends, and will never willingly subject them to Team Pepe.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m not being clear: what happened the last time trump lost?

[–] mindbleach 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The same thing. The only other candidate won. Same guy. Are you having a stroke?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If there was a “riot” in the capitol last time trump lost, what do you think will happen this time?

If you take stuff like project 2025 seriously and believe trump is a fascist threat then why do you think it matters how leftists vote?

You shouldn’t be out here scolding me for not paying homage to genocide Joe, you ought to be training.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fascists not needing to attempt a coup, because they just won outright, would be better.

Somehow.

Apparently.

Fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Historically speaking fascists were granted power by centrists and liberals, not through winning elections.

You could examine different fascist movements and make the case that they have to take power outside of the democratic process because the fascist project is predicated on the weakness and degeneracy of the state and winning an election would reify the very orifice of power that they were granted it through!

Look at what happened when trump won. Everyone was calling him a fascist then, and he ran on opposing the administrative state but was immediately hamstrung by it once in power.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Giving assholes power is better somehow because uhhhhh sometimes assholes take power anyway!"

Fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m not suggesting that. I’m not suggesting giving trump power because I’m voting against him and Biden in the general election.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One of those two people will have power and you won't endorse one over the other.

It's not a fucking mystery.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yeah, i'm not voting for a genocidaire just to keep trump from winning.

if the democrats wanted my support they could have run someone else.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"I won't lift a finger to stop fascism" is quite a fucking confession.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I didn’t say that, but I’m still never going to vote for Joe Biden again.

There’s a lot more than voting that will prevent fascism and as I said to you earlier, if you really think trump represents coming fascism your focus should be on preparing for violence instead of convincing people to vote for centrists and liberals, since historically speaking those centrists and liberals put fascists in power after they win the election.