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[–] the_post_of_tom_joad -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you don't think answering "basic math" is rude then i guess we'll have to disagree.

It's not a notion to be challenged, it’s a mathematical inevitability.

That's a brash claim, not really supported by your video.

Actually nevermind that. It really doesn't matter, since fptp is what we're got, and ranked choice is not.

focusing on this bit is ignoring my basic premise, my assertion of the media's deliberate pushing of the two-party narrative. It's only a "mathematical inevitability" with a lot of help from those who own the media and directly benefit from omitting all but the two candidates they favor

[–] agamemnonymous 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If you think acknowledging basic math is offensive I don't know how to communicate the principle here. Your basic premise is either uninformed, or a deliberate bad faith attempt to divide the left.

Pretending that the principles of FPTP are different doesn't make them so. As I said before, the cure is ranked choice. The mechanism of getting there is consistent turnout in primaries and all elections, especially local. That's the only way to push the Democratic party toward ranked choice, which is the only reasonable way to achieve ranked choice, which is the only way to make third parties viable.

Voting third party in FPTP only splits the vote and hurts the left. Your point about he media narrative, while not false, is not particularly relevant. The main issue is FPTP.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your point about he media narrative, while not false, is not particularly relevant.

Ok. Have a good one

[–] agamemnonymous 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Have a good one

Thank you, I will try my hardest.

Presently, the biggest obstacle to that goal is the combination of ignorance and propaganda affecting the upcoming election cycle, which has been empowering the right and fragmenting the left. The goodness of the one I am going to have is largely proportional to leftist turnout, and largely inversely proportional to the percentage of leftists confused by that ignorance and propaganda.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

[Large] percentage of leftists confused by ignorance and propaganda.

You nailed it. There are so many, leftists and otherwise. I don't blame those who are since we're drowning in a veritable flood of bad info by bad actors, but i hope and believe it can get better. but with all the fud out there it's not going to be easy.

I hope you get what you need from your efforts, same as i, and together we all come out of this garbage reality with our lives and loves intact.