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I don't like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

Not voting isn't going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he's publicly told Israel to "finish up their war". He'll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn't a straight cisgender male back here at home.

A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it's a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy's, and "sticking it to liberals" and "refusing to support genocide" (that's not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way -- a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump's campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?

I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I'll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there's a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

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[–] Habahnow 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah you're right, trump is better. /S Don't let perfect be the enemy of progress. Trump will ensure to help Israel, and he will look for more ways to hurt trans people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah you're right, genocide is not a deal breaker. /S

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How is Trump who supports genocide abroad AND at home better?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In September 2023,, did you think you'd be supporting a candidate that you acknowledge is committing a genocide? Because my expectations for liberals in 2023 were already very low. But this is some Nazi Germany shit that we're living in now.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

In September of 2023, I was prepared to vote blue in my State of Virginia, where we had a Red governor, a Blue Senate, and a Red House with the legislature seats all up for grabs. Now the legislative branch is Blue and the Governor is kept firmly in check and unlikely to run for President any longer.

And I never acknowledged Biden supported genocide; merely pointing out your fallacy in supporting actual genocide. In fact, the actions of the Biden administration to Palestinians in the US is contrary to your claims of the administration supporting genocide: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-protects-palestinian-immigrants-in-u-s-from-deportation-israel-hamas-war/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

In fact, the actions of the Biden administration to Palestinians in the US is contrary to your claims of the administration supporting genocide:

Doing minor shit while paying lip service to the idea that maybe you'll actually do something about your closest ally committing a genocide is WEAK. Especially when it's almost 6 months after this shit already started.

It's very clear that Biden supports this genocide and is only now doing something about it because the commoners are actually reacting to it

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

In fact, the actions of the Biden administration to Palestinians in the US is contrary to your claims of the administration supporting genocide:

This is an honestly insulting thing to say. We have eyes. We know where the missiles are made. We know that a convoy of trucks can deliver more aid than air drops and a dock built out of rubble and corpses. The Biden administration supports genocide in palestine. Full stop. No amount of gaslighting can change that fact.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Not just Israel. But Russia too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is no better time to make demands from the Democratic Party than right. now. as they need progressives and leftists to win. They have shown time and time again they are not willing to change their party in times of ease.

[–] Habahnow 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You want to change them? Get them to the white house. If Biden loses and becomes a perfect angel attempting to fulfill your every wish, want to know what you get? Whatever the fuck Trump wants to give you for 4 years. That's continued Genocide in Gaza, and more laws restricting Trans rights.

To say that Democrats have not changed party in all these years is ridiculous. The first US president to join a picket line is Joe Biden. The largest investment to fight global warming was signed by Joe Biden.

You want Democrats to pass more things? they need more than just a 1 vote lead in the senate. They need to control congress AND the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

And i probably will, but this “you don’t have a choice, so shut up about criticizing Biden because in 6 months there will be an election” Is very much bull shit. Sounds like people who are happy with a right wing Democratic Party don’t want the disenfranchised to have a say. Right now is THE time to call out Biden for his horse shit. And if he loses the next election, that’s not on the disenfranchised voters, that’s on the democrats for disenfranchising their voters. If we ever get ranked choice voting i will most Likely never vote democrat again. And i wonder if that’s why they kill voting reform