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I love the response they got lol "we don't accept disputes from fictitious organizations. You are treading on thin ice little man. Stop all this foolishness and pay us or prepare for jail time for defrauding the government." It's almost like they've dealt with this sort of thing before...
I've seen some really hilarious letters from various entities to sovcits. They have zero fucks left to give.
I mean, if I were a lawyer writing one of these letters, I feel like there is much stronger language they could use to stomp all over sovcits’ beliefs. Like, literally calling them “sovereign citizens” and citing cases where sovcits were dealt harsh punishment, and getting a little more personally flippant about the entire concept/movement.
You're misreading it. They just say that "fictitious name" is used by a PA government agency.
Also, you can request verification of your debt from any debt collector. It's a good way to fend off those scam debt collectors who ask for payment for something from a million years ago.
Every debt collector has to have proof that you owe the money. If they just have an old list of names they will be scared away.
Unlike a lot of sovvy incantations, asking for proof of debt is something that's reasonable and can work. Just not when you try it on the government.
He has his own records though, presumably he went to college, the education has obviously not taken, and knows how much he owes. He will have also been sent paperwork already with the total amount on it, so he's just asking for the same piece of paper again.
Oh, he knows whether or not he owes the debt. The point is, debts get traded between debt collection agencies and sometimes they can lose the paperwork. So then when you challenge them to show proof they can't find any and can't keep chasing you. If they do have proof then you aren't really any worse off.
Again, not something that will work in this guy's case, but it's not an insane thing to attempt.
That doesn't seem to be the case here as it's debt to the state. They generally don't sell debt.
It's Pennsylvania, so they probably have. This state is full of dumb weirdos.