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[–] [email protected] 13 points 17 hours ago

For too long it told men they can treat women however they want

This is demonstrably false, as we have certain narratives that are literally millennia old (latin literature) about courtship, romantic gestures, protection and all the other stuff usually associated with how men should treat women. Usually this is some form of protection/care for a lower/weaker being, but it is absolutely a way society has been telling men how to tell women for centuries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

I would say that what you said applies not to feminism in general (who historically had strong links to class struggle and anticapitalism), but to a part of the modern status quo feminism which is focused purely on individuals and has been absorbed by the ruling class (e.g., once the CEO is a woman, the goal is reached). This is not a representation of feminism in general though, and I would say the same can apply to many other movements as well (e.g., ambientalism, antiracism, etc.) that (in part) lost their revolutionary nature and are left fighting for small changes within the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

I think that in fact in at least some cases the lack of respect (or general ability to live a relationship with a man in a mutually loving way) is exactly due to that education. At the end of the day the flipside of the "subservient" attitude is that the man in the relationship is represented as a provider, with all the gender stereotypes that come with it: lack of emotions, self-reliance and of course the expectation for him to be a provider. I would say that most of the examples of bad relationships in this thread boil down to exactly these dynamics.

Also we are not anymore in the 1950, so that education today mostly happens implicitly, but it also gets mixed up with a lot of other messages from the wider society.

I personally also disagree about the fact that men are not taught how to fit in their gender role. I think they are, since very little, symmetrically to how women are too and possibly even more explicitly: you need to protect women (incl. sacrificing because that's what heroes do), the whole courtship thing, the fact that as a man you are responsible to provide for others, that there are certain activities that are manly, etc... Essentially is the exact same problem: gender stereotypes and sexism go both ways and impact both genders, although in different ways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I agree, personally.

In general I feel the words are so abstract (blacklist and whitelist) that I can't really see how someone will see some other meaning...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nftables is the modern iptables FYI. Linux firewall.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Totally discussing useless stuff here, but green and red to me give the feeling of temporary actions (and possibly alternating). Intuitively sounds more like slowing and speeding than it does permanently blocking or allowing something.

Black and white have the polar opposite meaning. At this point allowlist and blocklist might be a simpler solution to the "problem".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Right, violence works usually works to eradicate ideas and standardize morality!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is not even a slope, it is the application of the same principle applied by people who have different views and morality.

Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Just a thought: what happens when that "we" is people who - say - think the courts and the police are not doing their job in sending home all "these illegal immigrants" or something like that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

And Musk, and the Hungarian boxer, and many more around the World. This has been a worldwide case, not just a private US shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Tbh considering how it is a method, not a subject really, I think it is indirectly taught in so many subjects: math, literature, philosophy, biology, physics and more.

I really don't see the point of teaching it as a standalone subject, although I would be curious to see how that works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I had to search, and I did find a few articles talking about a rumor.

I don't think the two events are of same scope and magnitude. The Khelif's case has been a worldwide media case, what I found for was very US-specific and limited to some niche deranged corner of the internet (https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/07/27/katie-ledecky-trans-rumors/ listed Facebook and Twitter posts from individuals and 2 articles).

Possibly I shouldn't have used US athletes as example. Given how the topic is so controversial there, I am quite sure you can find a few idiots who would make this claim about any athlete.

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