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There’s an added cog in the machine here. Every time someone tries (and succeeds) in explaining the issues, the astroturfing (or just regular bootlicking) begins and suddenly there’s seeds of doubt.

I am seeing many users (especially those who haven't been around for as long) asking people what the big deal is and why their favorite subreddits are down. Half of the people trying to respond aren't giving these people satisfactory and succinct answers. The protest is breaking down as soon as it began.

It was business as usual on some of the subreddits I post on a lot (e.g., /r/credibledefense, /r/historywhatif). Those never shut down. But other ones where they re-opened, there's a bit of debate going on about whether or not to stay shut down or not. At least on the subs I visit and post on, most people are in favor of keeping the subs open.

I think the real issue is that the protest coordinators were not able to succinctly explain why they had to protest to begin with. Charging third party app developers for API access is an esoteric topic. Most people don't even know what an API is. Most people don't use third party apps. Most people also don't care.

Instant Pots are amazing if you cooked every single day, but when I started meal prepping, I stopped using mine as much. Instant Pots aren't great for meal prepping, their capacities are too small.

IDK I also see plenty of posts supporting keeping subs closed too. I doubt a lot of people have left the site for good. But those voices are generally outnumbered by people who don't understand what's going on or don't care about the protest.

Don't get me wrong... Lemmy is fine, but I am finding that most of the active posts here are about the protest on Reddit... plus a few discussions on current news and gaming... but little else. I am still spending most of my time on Reddit.

On many subreddits that have polls, it seems like a majority favor keeping their subs open. It seems like the userbase is generally ambivalent or even hostile towards the protest at large.

Lol I'm posting on both here and Reddit. I'm kind of enjoying the drama even though I don't have a strong opinion about the API controversy personally.

Yeah I don't have a strong opinion about whole API access controversy but it does spark a greater debate about how we let centralized services like Reddit subsume the Internet forum culture of old. Of course, Reddit in many ways is a superior product to the decentralized forums of old (you only need one account to post) but at the same time, this whole protest has proven especially damaging to people who rely heavily on Reddit as a resource for support (like the mental health subreddits, the chronic disease ones, etc.).

My sister is 30 and doesn't have a driver's license. But she does live in a city with solid public transit.

Agree. I don't plan to leave Reddit but it's good to look at the alternatives that are available out there.

I'm still on Reddit and don't plan to leave, but it's always nice to be on alternative sites like Lemmy. Half of the subreddits I read are still shut down, and there is debate on some subreddits on whether or not to stay shut down. It seems like most average users don't care about the API changes and some are wondering what the big deal is.

It's ok, just needs more users and content.