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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We know that cows do not want to die.

no, we don't. we don't even know if they understand personal mortality

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (22 children)

Imprisonment is often considered suffering and cows are not wild animals. They are rarely treated well.

they're provided, veterinary care, protection from the elements, protection from predators, drinkable water, space to graze, and opportunities to socialize. it's not imprisonment.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

conscious feeling creatures aren’t tortured and killed for pleasure.

that's not happening now, so don't worry about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

If the world suddenly adopted my view, climate change is basically solved,

I doubt it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

If the world suddenly adopted my view,

do you have a plan to make that happen?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

aesthetic needs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

you don't know what you're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

why should survival be the standard? I want my entire needs hierarchy filled

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I cannot even prove that rocks do not suffer, therefore it is worthless to prove the absence of suffering

you got there eventually.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

When talking about suffering, I am generally speaking of "pain, as processed by a nervous system".

if you define it in a way that specifically precludes other creatures, that seems biased. you don't know how a single-celled organism might be able to suffer. that doesn't mean that they can't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

all divine command theories only incidentally reduce harm, and only sometimes. and kant (like all deontologists) is not concerned with outcomes, only the correctness of the action.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (41 children)

The entire point of the field of ethics and half the field of philosophy is to reduce suffering

this is just a lie. one type of ethical study, utilitarianism, is focused on that. many ethical theories don't regard suffering at all, or only as a facet of some other concern.

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