j_overgrens

Yes and the 33 million people whose lives have been uprooted by the invasion, are undoubtedly very happy Russia is 'fixing' this with violence.

Except for Leninists.

The reason I am interested in the Ukrainian people is because I am European and volunteer in refugee relief. I am confronted with the human cost of this invasion on a very, very regular basis. The lives of 33 million people have been violently uprooted by the decision of a foreign state, and the only socialist stance to take in that regard is clear condemnation. It is that simple.

My question was: how does the violence of the invasion help the self determination of Ukrainian people?

I'll be more explicit: why not simply acknowledge that the invasion is not only unlawful, but deeply immoral -- and completely contradictory to the self determination of a people?

Right, so how does the full scale, violent invasion by a foreign state help the self determination of both Ukrainian peoples?

Question: do you believe in the self-determination of Ukrainians?

A conspiracy theory popular amongst delusional Marxists-Leninists, and that's an important difference.

Still it's funny to see these (often) so called anti colonial thinkers struggle with the idea of self determination of other nations. Nothing can happen without American involvement, obvs.

Basically reinstalling your OS because of an GCC update is the only gripe I have with Tumbleweed.

I wonder though, did I have the same with Arch? I don't remember.

Yes, and I think that when together in a big tent, socdems would associate more easily with anarchists than with leninists. Especially with syndicalists, for example.

I take great offense in you saying that tankies and socdems infight, lol. (I mean, I get it, they are both statists, but I feel on a emotional level most socdems feel more for anarchism than for leninism.)

On behalf of my Uyghur friends who haven't spoken to their parents in years, because they were imprisoned for their children emigrating: fuck you. A really deep, heartfelt fuck you.

Zizek said it quite eloquently: "[China] adopts the basic idea of fascism, which is conservative modernisation: 'we need capitalist dynamics, but we need to control it, and to control it we turn to our own national tradition'. [...] This is the problem with Chinese communism: there is a direct link with the fascist tradition."