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Here is some more links on the disturbing stuff:

• Arte.tv
  • The true horror of Irish mother and baby homes | ARTE.tv Documentary
  • Ireland's Forced Adoptions | ARTE.tv Documentary
• Part One: How The Catholic Church Murdered Ireland's Babies | Behind The Bastards
• Wikipedia article
• Tuam Home Survivors
  • Tuam Baby Death Records

Sorry, I should have put the sources list at the bottom of my reply.

First off you can't compare US mortality rates to Irish ones, especially if you can't apply it to the numbers.

From the Wikipedia article on Tuam: Writing in a 2012 HSE report, Declan McKeown, a consultant public health physician and medical epidemiologist stated that the infant mortality rate in the home were "similar to those recorded at Bessborough" (another mother and baby home), which were five times the rate for Ireland in 1950 and 65 times the 2012 rate. McKeown stated that these rates were equivalent to the infant mortality rate in Ireland in the 1700s.

That seems disturbingly high, don't you think?

EDIT: Disturbingly high and a common occurence in these facilities in Ireland.

Also check out at least that 1st Arte video. It is not long and features a couple of survivors.

After consuming the sources below I have to say that the disposal of the bodies is IMHO the least atrocious thing that was committed.

Sources:

• Arte.tv
  • The true horror of Irish mother and baby homes | ARTE.tv Documentary
  • Ireland's Forced Adoptions | ARTE.tv Documentary
• Part One: How The Catholic Church Murdered Ireland's Babies | Behind The Bastards
• Wikipedia article
• Tuam Home Survivors
  • Tuam Baby Death Records
• easy to find sources as they are all over the place

Sorry, in the context of the many apologists in this thread still trying to smear the historian and to gloss over the atrocities and you bringing up SIDS I missed you intention.

I still disagree with youur comment though. I think that is it less likely for an atheist organisation to commit the same atrocities and there being no known incidents of similar coverups. Still, any organization starving and mistreating children will try hide their crimes and their victims bodies regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof.

In short: I agree with your intent but I disagree with how you worded it.

The article is crap. The DNA is used to ID siblings, relatives. That's however not the only thing they got wrong

See here for example: The true horror of Irish mother and baby homes | ARTE.tv Documentary

Is it possible to pin replies? For some reason this was almost at the bottom for me.

Also I can add some more sources, that Fox article is really bad:

• Arte.tv
  • The true horror of Irish mother and baby homes | ARTE.tv Documentary
  • Ireland's Forced Adoptions | ARTE.tv Documentary
• Part One: How The Catholic Church Murdered Ireland's Babies | Behind The Bastards
• Wikipedia article
• Tuam Home Survivors
  • Tuam Baby Death Records
• easy to find sources as they are all over the place

There is plenty of evidence for the abuse and unaliving of children before the bodies were hidden.

Sources:

• Arte.tv
  • The true horror of Irish mother and baby homes | ARTE.tv Documentary
  • Ireland's Forced Adoptions | ARTE.tv Documentary
• Part One: How The Catholic Church Murdered Ireland's Babies | Behind The Bastards
• Wikipedia article
• Tuam Home Survivors
  • Tuam Baby Death Records
• easy to find sources as they are all over the place

*pro-birther. If they were really pro life there'd be less school shootings, etc. pp.

You could start by exposing the next Mother Rasputin or Mother Teresa.

Sinéad AKA Shuhada begs to differ

"This is to announce that I am proud to have become a Muslim. This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant. I will be given (another) new name. It will be Shuhada’"

— Shuhada’ Davitt (@MagdaDavitt77) AKA Sinéad O'Connor

She left main stream catholicism before the SNL incident: "The 51-year-old was previously ordained a priest by a breakaway Catholic sect, the Irish Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church, in the late 1990s" source: Irish Post

She was a troubled being (who wouldn't be with her childhood?), so not all her decisions are relatable. Converting to main stream (Sunni) Islam still sticks out as weird.

Not only Joe Pesci, also Madonna and others. But fuck Joe Pesci for not even apologizing after her death.

The disease / pre-existing condions being "born out of wedlock" and "being in a catholic children camp".

Since the excavations just happen now as survivors and the general public wont shut up about the atrocities, and ITT there are still plenty of apologist I'm not sure how thick the veneer of better is.

Amongst others these:

• Seven Years in Tibet
• Serfdom in Tibet controversy

Both the old theocratic feudal state and the CCP oppressed state are bad

@[email protected] is not a "Sino-Shill", none is questioning the atrocities of the CCP. Please re-read this thread.