dnick

I think you might be on the wrong side of the argument here, as others are pointing out the 'quiet' part of that sentence isn't meant to be low volume, but more along the lines of secret or unspoken, and the 'out loud' part doesn't mean volume, it means 'spoken'.

If it helps, it's like when someone says something they were thinking and goes 'oh no, did i say that out loud?!'.... They're not specifically worried about how loudly they said it, but that they said it audibly at all when they meant to only think it.

Maybe you don't only need vitamins?

Might have to look at that though, it's possible once the funds have been allocated to a department Congress extra less control over how there are used. As long as there's some loophole where the money can be spent on severance, and it doesn't cost more money than was allocated for the year(how can it? It's just paying people for not working)

That's kind of my point though, nothing is every really designed for the food of humanity, we evolved in an environment and adapt or die. It may seem hopeless while we're living through it, and it may be 'different' than the past, but it's always different, from the wheel to agriculture to the printing press to mass production, things are always taken advantage of by those with the means to do so, and we always come out different in the other side, were just living through this one and everyone feels special in the time they're living through. Just imagine the days of the printing press and how powerful those who owned the press would appear.

Sure, but when did that happen? After the first board was replaced? As soon as the first board was damaged?

It seems obvious that the whole thought experiment is just semantics. One of those things that interesting to think about the first time, but after awhile it's just illustrative to point out how we just define things imprecisely and that I'm almost all cases it is far more convenient and practical, but if you look at anything from the right perspective, the lack of precision stands out. Even 'walking out of a room' doesn't have a perfect description if you slow things down far enough, but practically it's pretty useful to describe it as a distinct event.

They were discussing converting the AU to 1 'your mom' as a better frame of reference, but France wouldn't sign on

Right, but things rarely happen 'for the good of humanity', they just happen, and like mass production or the newspaper or even writing and language itself, it appears, we make use of it, we stumble and eventually we figure out where it really fits into the world. It will always be taken advantage of by those with the means to do so, but my point is that there is a period where we truly don't know how to approach it as a society and there is a learning curve and we are in that adolescent or teenage year type curve for the Internet, and probably toddler stage for ai, and we will learn, but we're not there yet.

Further, whether we learn enough quickly enough, or whether those with enough power and foresight will truly steal that opportunity from society remains to be seen. It may seem like it will be obvious right now, while we're in the thick of things, but only history will tell if it's an obvious eventuality or whether it is comical that they think they are smart enough to actually control it. Maybe it contains the seeds of their own undoing.

The issue isn't that musk could have interfered, the issue is that Trump thinks he did and is happy about the possibility that he did.

I still consider us in something like the teenage years as a society, just discovery something big like the Internet and social media and we're going to handle it poorly until we learn to handle it responsibly.

Heads or tails whether we make it to adulthood before the powers that be manage to wrangle things in their favor first. Signs point in a bad direction, but there's no saying that the tools that worked on society before won't break when the next thing comes along. Maybe ai will take a form that liberates, or hits the powerful far more negatively than it hits the masses.

Definitely not, post was less about this guy and more about other people that might find it a convenient age to 'go'.

Not that I'd celebrate this guy dying, but maybe 78 is a good age to go