bogdugg

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[–] bogdugg 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Defederation happens on an instance to instance level. There will always be instances which do not approve of those who conduct themselves differently. It is not worth it to make decisions based on threat of defederation, because you essentially cede community control to those who would make those threats.

I'm not saying the community in question should be free to be assholes, but if they are to be banned, it should be because they are breaking the rules of this instance, not anyone else's. In my opinion, a better way to frame the discussion is "should we allow this content/these users?"

[–] bogdugg 12 points 2 years ago

I think you have the wrong idea. These are just sign-ups. It is very easy to automate without precautions in place and is unrelated to bots pretending to be human in comments.

[–] bogdugg 2 points 2 years ago

This may be controversial, but I see this as a net-positive for the internet long-term. The more momentum the Fediverse has in terms of growth, the more incentive other services have to join it, and the more everyone on the internet can be on the same page. One of the worst aspects of the internet right now is that different services don't even speak the same language; there's so much fragmentation. The fediverse forces services to be about the quality of the service itself, rather than the quantity of the content being hosted.

[–] bogdugg 12 points 2 years ago

Can be read as either "Reddit has claimed" or "Reddit was claimed", but "and it has threatened" clarifies it is not the former.

[–] bogdugg 3 points 2 years ago

Beehaw defederated from SJW, but SJW did not defederate from Beehaw. So any posts/comments made to that community prior to defederation will and do appear. The newest post was 14hr ago, and the newest comments are only from SJW.

[–] bogdugg 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My guess is the instance chooses whether you can freely federate, or that your request needs to be accepted. I would also guess that they only see posts on commonly federated instances.

[–] bogdugg 9 points 2 years ago

One main issue (or benefit, depending on your POV) with federation is that it trends toward the lowest common denominator of moderation. Because of the way things scale, you rely on others instances to moderate their users. But what if your standard for etiquette differs? For a large instance, you either try to convince other instances to get in line and adopt a shared value system, or you relent, or you defederate. All of these options will likely result in a more "average" standard of quality among the wider pool of instances.

Maybe that's good, maybe it's bad, but I'm not surprised instances with quality standards on the extreme ends get pushed out.

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