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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Ukranian governement is not fascist, nor with a dictator.

It is both. Zelensky's regime ticks almost every (or just every) description of fascism from wikipedia. He is a dictator. Even your comment in the next sentences doesn't DISPROVE it, you merely try to JUSTIFY it.

Posting a random video, with a story, without providing a single fucking source (that isn't russian propaganda).

I (re)posted dozens of such videos already, where my compatriots who haven't managed to escape Zelensky's murderous regime either fight kidnapping attempts from TCC, or try to escape or are getting caught and busified.
This was described countless times in western media https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/10/03/ukraine-is-employing-increasingly-controversial-methods-for-mobilization_6728127_4.html and I actually just found out it is also described in wikipedia now, including the word busification https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis, and yet there is always someone to deny it. As for my sources, I mainly take it from Ukrainian telegram channels, where people post those from first sources.
"Ухилянт Iнфо": https://t.me/+ECYgfpxkTz4zOGNh
"Ховайся": https://t.me/HOVAYSY
"Реальний Київ": https://t.me/kievreal1

But Ukrainians are Russian bots now, right? How dare we, not willing to die for your interests?

You also insinuated zelenski is exterminating his people, which is insane

Why? He literally forbade people from leaving the country, kidnaps people one by one off the streets and sends them to their deaths. How is this not an extermination? Every moment he remains in power is a moment he exterminates more and more Ukrainians, if he won't be stopped he will kill everyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Fuck the government unless that government is a fascist one with a dictator, then that is okay of course

What? I just criticized a fascist government with a dictator, and you accuse me of not doing that? 🤦‍♂

And what is "insane" in my comment?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Eh, and as almost my every comment like this one, it got reported by some LW user with reason "pro Russian bot" :/
If you think that caring about peoples' lives and posting evidence of human right abuses is somehow a sign of a person being Russian, or just something that is worth a condemnation.. What kind of mental gymnastics routine are you doing every morning to still consider yourself a good person?..

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hope he will keep his word and finish the war in Ukraine.

Saving millions of lives will probably make US democrats and all the other sadists very sad though :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, I meant Ukraine as a country could surrender.

Well, it just so happens that I care more about people, actual living humans, their lives, and not countries.

I believe kidnapping citizens to fight is basically an express draft.

I believe kidnapping people and sending them to die is kidnapping people and sending them to die.

Not that this conversation matters. Neither of our opinions matter.

Well, that's true I guess. Like most/all of the "battles" in comments. I just don't think there is something more I can do to stop Zelensky terrorizing people, other than try to convince randos on the internet to stop supporting his regime :(

Trump will stop support

I sure hope so, this is the only (realistic) outcome where my family and friends and every other Ukrainian survive.

will becomes west Russia

I don't think so, that's just a scarecrow the west is using to continue the war.

I'm sure they will be kidnapped off the streets and drafted to go fight another war somewhere

  1. Doesn't happen in Russia on an even remotely similar scale.
  2. People in Russia "under Putin's boot" can always leave the country (and of course go to the greatest country on Earth with the most benevolent leader - Ukraine). People in Ukraine are Zelensky's slaves.

I'm sure they didn't treat Ukranians poorly

Well, now Russia definitely does treat us better though. Those who are in the liberated cities are the lucky ones who can freely move around.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Make them die?

Yes, exactly.

They can surrender themselves right?

How? Surrendering in modern warfare is super hard, you will either be droned by enemy because they mistake your surrendering for attacking, or by your side for surrendering.

As long as they want to fight I see no reason not to supply them with the means to usurp the oppressers.

Sure, supply those who want to fight. You do know though, that people in Ukraine are given no choice? Zelensky forbade people to leave the country (and he is way more successful at keeping the western border safe than eastern one (that is, from people wanting to escape this hell) - weak against strong ones, and strong against weak ones). Zelensky's regime kidnaps people from the streets and sends them to the meatgrinder. If you care about "helping people fight against oppressive regimes" you should support those people, not the ones terrorizing them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I recall they said the same about Hilter. It was called appeasement. Don't accept bullies demands. Period.

Then go sign up for foreign legion and go make sure Putin loses. Don't make Ukrainians die instead of you for your wild fantasies.

 

The English version is subpar (probably machine translation), but the site is the only one I've found that has English version.

Another source in Ukrainian: https://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/virok-tiktok-odesit-otrimav-umovniy-termin-1730117684.html

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