bayesianbandit

🙄 you're not any better than people blaming non-voters for the election & you're not convincing anybody with that BS any more than they're convincing you

Why not, instead, work to stop the trolley from killing anyone?

I could ask the same of you! Instead of helping fix the system you're blaming other people for their personal voting choices. Get it?

Yeah but you should see our discord servers, boards, hashtags, and subreddits (previously: forums, irc channels, and Usenet)... talking about migration here from what is likely a much more diverse pool of people

I just. The girls are always fighting basically. They might not be fighting here right now. But if you bring the girls the fighting begins over like fuckin'. The most petty stuff you'd be amazed if you're not trans yourself

Anyway I made a post on blahaj.zone we'll see if they're open to it especially as a first landing zone for Reddit refugees

I’m definitely checking it out! I do believe there’s probably a happy little bubble of people in there of the sort I personally tend to vibe with. But I’ve vibed with a lot of different types in the community over the past 20 years

The main thing it’s taught me is that when people strongly advertise as one particular type of trans they tend to be hostile toward other types of trans who they see as harming them.

Or other times they pleasantly surprise me and I observe other factions sling mud at them regardless & nobody gets anywhere lmao

I think Discord users will move wherever they need to in order to survive impending bans.

So I take your word for it sort of. The name itself of referencing blahaj will turn off a lot of transsex users and it’s a nuanced conversation I could write a book about. Transmedical is also clearly viewed as synonymous with gatekeeping as per someone camping the name.

Whatever a persons personal views on internal trans politics may be, the community is very diverse and there’s lots of infighting. For hosting medical information I think it needs to be a place where regardless of which faction people come from they’re not afraid of being banned unless they are explicitly harming others (not just disagreeing with them)

Maybe if I hang around longer and get to know them my concerns will be moot. I’m open to that and am fully willing to admit I showed up 2 days ago/am only going off vibes (but so will incoming users be going off vibes)

That’s why I edited my comment to advertise it at the top later (it’s me who posted the long ass Lemmy comment)

Though I would add I am still new to the fediverse and am not familiar with the owners of lemmy.blahaj.zone

I also think in the long run we need instances that are heavily vetted and defederated from the main instances. Growing from private Discord server alliances seems like a healthier option in the long run

Personally I pull the lever in the trolley problem. Not pulling the lever definitely doesn’t equal washing one’s hands of the outcome.

No you see, they don’t want to hold politicians accountable. They’d rather bootlick while blaming individual voters for being stuck between a rock and hard place.

I wish these people could understand that blaming people for voting “wrong” is literally the opposite of democracy and just devolves into nothing ever getting better.

Like you shouldn’t have to do that, people make good choices when they have good options!!

So by your logic we should just roll over and allow them to run roughshod over our rights then while we debate every minute detail of our bodies and whether they affect competitiveness in silly games.

Got it. The general population has barely any attention capacity for this so let’s just keep playing on the conservatives terms then. Great effort.

For every conversation you have about hormone levels you could be raising awareness of far more pressing issues in our community and calling conservatives bluffs instead of falling for the red herring.

No the most important thing is that the government has no business getting involved in policing young girls bodies in order for them to be allowed to go have some fun with their friends and team mates on the field.

High school sports don’t even need to be that competitive to begin with. It’s not a professional league.

In your attempt to problematize 1% of 1% of 1% of the population here, when school admins and doctors are fully capable of handling it themselves, conservatives are running roughshod over the humanity of every cis girl with broad shoulders, every cis girl with a hormonal issue like PCOS, every cis girl who’s period gets delayed because she’s athletic, etc.

Those are the vast majority of victims who are harmed by the type of thinking you’re intellectualizing over here. Cis girls. Who now will be forced to prove their bodies are acceptably feminine in order to play.

Of course they’re doing all that to trans girls too but nobody cares about that. So as a trans woman I tell you: go ahead and do it I dare you.

If that were true you would have replied by ignoring their red herring (women’s sports) and brought the attention back to the real issues—lack of access to medical care, criminalization of trans legal status, etc.

Instead you decided to debate them over nitpicky “biological advantage” arguments which just reinforces the myth in the minds of readers that the only thing we have to lose here are silly games for entertainment and fun. That’s exactly what they want and you fell for it.