ZombiFrancis

MBFC does the opposite of elevate conversations. It's quite frankly a poison pill for conversations. People will apply their prejudices and alter their interpretations based on the 'bias check', typically before or instead of any critical thinking ~~or ant article.~~ of any article.

The last time the MBFC bot was going the user pushing it was very clearly aware of this dynamic. They also knew it was lumping everything to website source, despite authors and opinion pieces, for maximum damage.

We should also have boots on the ground

So that 'We' means 'other people'?

I unironically believe Lemmy needs a healthy amount of tankies so that right-wingers know they're not welcome here

That is one job they're good for. Been trying to tell the anti-leftist crusaders the last few years they're just facilitating right-wing safe space.

So now we got conservative communities posting breitbart and users feeling safe to critisize the Nuremburg trial. Like I know it is all the rage to question the holocaust on reddit now, but damn they move fast when they see opportunity.

Look, I didn't make the statement that Nazis have value.

The basis of all of this was to point out the reason Julius Streicher was executed even though he wasn't involved with military operations or the Holocaust.

This has gotten you very accusatory with how much you're reading into that. It really does seem like you're taking personal issue with it, which is wild. You keep saying this conversation shouldn't continue, so please.

For the record my initial statement regarded the Nuremburg Trials and the outcome that led to a propagandist being executed. I really honestly did not expect referencing the Nuremburg Trials to be so criticized.

Telling me I'd be losing my humanity by finding the outcome of Nuremburg Trials to be just is some wild shit.

Yeah, this is more the sentiment for expressly virulent, unrepentant Nazis. The kind that went to Nuremburg. Someone who is actually capable of changing and renouncing the ideology isn't a Nazi.

Oof, let me rephrase:

I don't think the thought experiment reinforced or helped explain the refutation of "Nazi lives don't matter" with the claim "Nazi lives do have value."

That should've been clear, and I think it is for any reading audience? So, uh, yeah.

That is two scenarios where garbage is disposed of. At no point is the garbage status questioned: because it is established it is garbage.

I don't think that thought experiment refuted anything.

Nazis are humans. Humans who perpetuate crimes against humanity. The crime against humanity that is Nazism carries the death penalty--as it should. It's a ideology predicated on lives not mattering.

There is a reason one of the most prominent acts of Nazi leadership is suicide.

The Nuremburg Trials still falls within the determination that Nazi lives did not matter. The executions were definitely the point.

The key example for this was Julius Streicher. He didn't plan the Holocaust, implement it, or get involved in any military action of World War 2. He just spread antisemitic and genocidial vitriol through the press.

Nazis and the ideologies they spread are a Crime against Humanity for Incitement of Genocide.

Classic right wing mindset requiring tolerance of intolerance.

Ah when a center-right party is considered 'left-leaning'. Good ol reliable british tabloid.

Love how they reference TYT and Pod Save America, two of the biggest ideological grifters imaginable. What's next? Considering 'the left' to be people like Destiny and Vaush?