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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Why do Democrats talk like they can win elections but then blame voters when they lose?

Because they’ve won the majority of elections in the last 3 decades. They arent blaming voters when they lose. The voters that voted democrat are blaming leftists for not voting and getting Trump elected.

And to be honest, I don't really even follow your post. Are Democrats not progressives? Are we agreeing that they are center right and that their base isn't really motivated to vote for that?

Democrats have been moving left since Obama. Leftist didn’t show up to vote this elections because of Gaza so they got Trump elected. So now democrats need to cater to the right to increase voter turnout.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why is it that progressives consistently lose elections but talk like they know how to win elections?

If progressives know how to win better than democrats why do they keep losing elections?

We are in an echo chamber. Downvotes on lemmy do not reflect a real world consensus on opinions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Literally anyone can run in a closed primary. A closed primary means that only registered members of the party can vote in the primary.

Winning the primary decides whether or not someone can run as a candidate in the general election. Either you need that explained because you don’t know anything about primaries or you are pretending to not understand what you’re reading.

There are only 15 states that hold closed primaries. I live in a state with open primaries, and I'm repped by Ed Markey, Elizabeth Warren, and Ayanna Pressley. Not exactly a bunch of secret conservatives, is it?

Your reading comprehension is failing you again. Having no vetting process doesn’t guarentee the candidate is a “secret conservative” it just increases the chances of it happening. I’m surprised I need to explain that again.

It isn't. Sit down, you don't know what you're talking about.

vetting noun [ U ] US /ˈvet.ɪŋ/ UK /ˈvet.ɪŋ/ the action of examining someone or something carefully to make certain that they are or it is acceptable or suitable for something

It’s literally the definition of what they are doing with closed primaries. Why does that need to be explained to you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

And giving people the choice between center right and far-right doesn't motivate voters.

That choice was made by the voters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

LOL, how do you think letting anyone run as a candidate without vetting them will turn out?

Absolutely any bad actor will be able to run without intervention. The floodgates would be open. Which is probably what the bad actors calling for open primaries want.

Also, closed primaries don't add any more vetting. They just mean that the only people who get to vote in the primaries are party members.

This is the definition of vetting. lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Nah, they just cater to their corporate donors and folks that would never vote for them.

Because of Citizens United, this is a necessary evil. You either get donors or you lose from lack of funding.

Look at the progressives that lost recently because AIPAC out funded their competition.

Voters had to chose between two candidates, one on the left and one on the right. Voters chose the one on the right. Meaning not enough leftist showed up to vote.

Leftist don’t show up to vote > voters chose the option furthest right > leftists learn nothing, blame democrats and do it again next cycle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They need to start poking bears. Use the laws even if outnumbered. Show force; show pressure.

These words mean nothing. They are not a strategy or a plan or even coherent.

You’re avoiding the fact that in a democracy, you need enough votes to make things happen.

Tell us what is happening. Get the word out. We can't help if all we hear is what has happened.

We know what’s happening. That’s why we are having this conversation.

The rules have changed and democrats are still using a textbook from 1990.

What rules have changed? Republicans are breaking the rules by performing a coup. To even imply that democrats should do the same thing as republicans shows you’re arguing in bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

And how will removing the vetting process impact the amount of candidates we get like Fetterman? It will increase them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The primaries are where the party platform is shifted. It's how the Republicans got first the Tea Party and then MAGA.

Which is why we need the DNC to vet candidates as much as possible. So we don’t end up getting some democrat version of Trump through open primaries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

If you don’t have enough elected officials to do anything then criticism is pointless.

Criticism is for when there is no threat to your ability to get elected.

Criticism before an election is secured, gives the opposition talking points to use against you. It also gives voters a reason to feel apathetic and not vote.

This guarantees leftist legislation doesn’t get passed and leftists politicians don’t get elected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Involved in what way?

What do you mean by “only do politics on Election Day”

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