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Splitters!

Yeah, I haven't actually sat down to watch the 1997 Titanic in a long time, for that reason. A Night to Remember exists. 1997 Titanic breaks in half, but in the wrong place, so they're both wrong about it ;)

Cameron tested this. There was room for both on the door, but only in a very specific orientation could they both stay dry. And because she was wearing more clothes than he was, even if Jack makes it out of the water, he's still hypothermic and won't survive.

Edit: It's a NatGeo doc called "Titanic: 25 years later." They're in a pool that's 56 degrees F. You can find it on streaming someplace, but here's a clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJph0aIP-U

If you take out the Jack/Rose love story and add some of the Californian's scenes and a bit in the wireless room, you could edit Cameron's Titanic down to a pretty good remake of A Night to Remember. He was clearly influenced by it, some scenes are lifted straight from the ANtR narrative even though they are known to be inaccurate (Andrews in the first class smoking room, Smith on the bridge as the ship goes down come to mind).

I like the Cameron Titanic, actually. The love story notwithstanding, it's well worth watching for his attention to detail. The reconstruction of the ship was meticulous, and with a few notable exceptions for dramatic license, the account of the sinking is quite accurate (for the information we had at the time - we now know the breakup is incorrect, but at the time it was the best theory) and contains quite a few easter eggs for Titanic nerds. (like me)

That said... I love A Night to Remember and watch it every year on the anniversary of the sinking. The book is well worth reading, too. Walter Lord assembled his narrative based on correspondence with as many survivors as he could reach - often verbatim as they told it, and it's really a riveting read.

• Has faith in the Lord
• Believes that God saved Trump from assassin's bullet
• Ergo: put Trump in the path of every hurricane, enjoy being protected by proximity.

I enjoy turning this one around. "Oh, you're one of those socialists who wants everybody else to do your work for you, too lazy to lift your own groceries. Nobody wants to work anymore!"

"Sir, this is First National Total Landscaping"

Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you?

"yer a jedi, harry" - Gandalf

I am certainly interested! thanks!

I agree that his bark is worse than his bite; whether that's because reality doesn't agree with his rhetoric, or because the power to unilaterally imprison an opponent is outside the scope of presidential powers, or because he was only bloviating and never meant any of it.

I have always said that my main concern isn't Trump himself. I don't think he's evil incarnate or a would-be dictator, largely because I personally don't think he's smart enough to be a supervillain. My main concern is that rhetoric like that whips up reactionary anger; it certainly motivates voters, which is almost certainly why he continues to do it (an angry mob is a force), but it's also worsened an already deep political divide and created a situation where conservatives and liberals (I'm neither, for the record, I'm pretty far to the left of both) don't even really see or hear each other anymore, they only see the masks that have been placed there by their own conditioning.

Feel free to respond again if you wish, I'm happy to let you have the last word since you were so kind as to engage civilly. I've enjoyed the interaction; thank you..