ComradeMiao

Thanks! That makes a lot of sense. So if one wanted to expand and make more one would thus have to divide that amongst more workers. Any expanse, salary, and expense would all be decided and taken upon together.

Also I didn’t know haute bourgeoisie was real lol. I thought that was just a term from the horrible movie metropolitan.

Thanks for the comment and links. Will read them later tonight.

Based on what you said, how do you divide bourgeoisie and proletariat then? Those who control the means of production and those who profit is extracted right? Would the example where no one is extracting and all workers are paid well still be proletariat? I’m sure it can’t be as silly as proletariat + paid well = bourgeoisie. Both examples I provided come from dirt poor families.

So based on what you just said, profit would/should essentially not exist. It should be expenses going towards all workers fairly and the rest put back into the company and means?

I think that's a rational way of approaching it, I guess it's hard to understand the ethics of it for big brands and how their leather is supplied for instance. I assume most cows are killed primarily for their meat but I am unsure.

Following your life of thought I see nothing wrong with freeganism. I feel plantbased caused me to be almost religiously anti-animal products early on but I agree with not wanting to waste.

Especially one's where an animal is not specifically killed for that product.

Thank you!

Thanks for the response!

I don't think one needs to follow canon by who owns the rights. Look at the bible lol! I can't see Brian's "work" or for instance Disney's star wars as canon beyond they own the rights.

The origins of Voice… It had to come from somewhere, and it being discussed by a teenager with freak abilities doesn’t seem that odd to me (given the wider nature of all the crazy stuff that happens within the canon Dune universe). I wish they had fleshed that our in season 1 a bit more though.

Fair point. They never explained much of it at all. Where in the books, not referring to Brian's trash, it seemed to be a skill learned.

The religious aspect seems very believable to me. Any time you get a group of people who believe they have some sort of master plan or divine right together for a common cause you will see a) scisms, and b) fanaticism/zealotry.

I agree it can be believable but their whole thing is control. They make up religions for control. Why would they believe in them?

I think an issue here is that “ethical” and “unethical” as value judgements operate on many different levels and just because someone does something considered one or the other, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are wholly bad or good.

This is a fair point I considered. That's why I wondered how to define because it can't be on an individual basis.

Could you expand upon how getting paid a high salary is unethical? Does giving a lot to charity make it better?

Thanks for that well written response. That is very helpful!

Got it!

Thanks for the recommendations and taking my question seriously :)