BrainInABox

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I don’t think it’s a straw man to say there are many people out there who look at countries that hold or held the banner of communism or socialism through extremely rose tinted glasses, and many of them are on Lemmy.ml

Ok. That's not what you claimed. Now you're just lying

And apologies for taking it out on yourself, that wasn’t cool of me

Like I said, go back to reddit you fucking dweeb.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

No, you won't. You will not find a single one. Not one, not every, not anywhere. It is a lazy straw-man that you have made up. No actual person holds that position and you will not find a single example

And apologies for taking it out on yourself, that wasn’t cool of me

Go back to reddit you fucking dweeb.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn’t Hamas also call them that? Or perhaps it’s just translated as such.

Would be news to me, and that kind of double standard in language has been used a lot (see "kidnapped from his tank").

The entire point of that article is to report on what Israel is saying.

Yes? That's exactly my point. Do they have articles who's whole point is to report on what Palestine is saying? Yemen? Russia?

So I’m not sure how that can be disproportionate if it exclusively talks about what it says in the headline

They choose their own headlines.

I think it makes sense for a media outlet to also report what Israel says

I don't.

The Guardian also mentions that the “eruption of violence” started on October 7th, and I’m pretty sure that’s objectively true as well

You going to read the rest of that sentence? The part that goes "...when thousands of Hamas-led gunmen attacked Israeli communities around the Gaza Strip, killing 1,200 people and abducting 251 hostages."

and I’m pretty sure that’s objectively true as well

It's also objectively true that Israel is a fascist, genocidal ethnostate, you won't see them saying that though.

The “comedically low death count” is the count as reported by the Gaza health ministry.

  1. That death count is the direct munitions deaths that the barely functionally health ministry has been able to confirm. It is the depths of willfully misleading to imply that thats the actual estimated total death count. And you can tell that it's misleading, because it misled you.

  2. Even that count is much higher than the number Guardian gave now, they're using old numbers.

but that’s a different statistic.

Actually no, that's the statistic The Guardian is falsely claiming it is.

Not sure what you want the Guardian to do here

For a start, they should include that the estimates for total deaths had already passed the two hundred thousand mark half a year ago.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Here’s the Guardian article on the condemnation of the attacks: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/18/un-human-rights-chief-voices-horror-at-israel-new-gaza-strikes

Hey, that one's actually good, only issue being one instance of "Hostages" vs "detainees"

Here’s a slightly more recent article that focuses on Israel’s justification and Netanyahu’s comments: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/18/israel-gaza-strikes-deaths-latest-update

This one is pretty damn bad though, spending a disproportionate amount of time uncritically repeating the lies and rhetoric of Israel, it also repeats the lie of Hamas starting the fighting by "attacking Israel" as well as not differentiating between civilian and military casualties on October 7th, before immediately giving a comedicly low death count for Israel's genocide in Gaza.

Here’s an opinion article published today from one of the main columnists that is very explicit about the genocide in Gaza: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/19/imagine-silent-terrible-evil-committed-gaza-inaction-censorship

A good editorial, not that it too talks about how bad the media has been.

So maybe let’s not attack media outlets that do actually show what is going on and that are willing to call it what it is?

I mean, they're still extremely hesitant to actually call it what it is, instead resorting to qualified "some say" framing, while also giving equal consideration (or sometimes greater) to obvious lies from Israel. Don't get me wrong, the guardian is way better than most, but that a relative statement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I mean, I have. But given that you've already committed to being outright incoherent, it's no surprise that you'll also just lie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Least incoherent zionist genocide supporter.

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