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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] greengear5 2 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure they already do. The articles states China did not have to contribute before, as they were still a developing nation. Now they are in a position where they can pay, so they should, is what Wopke Hoekstra seems to be arguing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yea lol. china already doing its part by importing emissions by selling solar that help other countries externalize their emissions: by relying on 'chinese solar' instead of fossil fuel, and china gets to keep churning cheap but powerful panels using factories powered by coal plants.