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[–] taladar 49 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"The alliance has always regarded our country as a so-called notional enemy. Now it openly considers our country to be an obvious adversary.

Well, yes, if you openly invade a country in Europe other countries in Europe will consider you an adversary.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

You're a notional enemy until you actually invade, and then you become an actual enemy. That's how these things work, Vladdy

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

First Russia invades Ukraine unprovoked and makes constant threats to all neighboring countries especially former soviet union states. Now they are complaining that said countries join NATO and plan their defense. A country arguing like this would be hilarious if it did not involve thousands of dead people in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


MOSCOW, Nov 24 (Reuters) - The Kremlin said on Friday that NATO's desire to have a military analogue of the Schengen Zone in Europe to allow the alliance's armed forces to move around freely to counter Russia had ratcheted up tensions and was a cause for concern.

The chief of NATO's logistics command JSEC, Lieutenant-General Alexander Sollfrank, told Reuters in an interview published on Thursday that he would like to see such a zone.

He said he was worried that too much red tape across Europe was hindering troop movements, a problem he said could cause major delays if a conflict with Russia were to erupt.

NATO is actively supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia and Kyiv hopes one day to join the alliance.

However NATO itself is not at war with Russia, a situation which U.S. President Joe Biden and other Western leaders say they want to avoid given Moscow's vast nuclear arsenal.

He said talk of building a 'military Schengen' showed once again that Europe was unwilling to listen to Moscow's legitimate concerns and was ready to boost its own security at Russia's expense.


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