is throwing $1k at gpu worth it?
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Sure is if the alternative is spending over $2000 for a GPU with slightly more performance.
what is slightly more performance ?
0-30% faster for well over 100% more cost.
I mean if you're gonna include the games that run better on AMD in your range, might as well include the games that run better on Nvidia no? It's more like 0-200% faster.
All that aside the 4090 is in it's own league, no competitors what so ever. It's bad value yes but water is also wet, and it's price is currently inflated because of how it's insanely good at AI. 7900XTX is also poor value compared to literally any other RDNA3 GPU and unlike the 4090, it isn't a halo product, but it's pretty good if you have max 1k to spend on GPU.
Definitely. You speak the truth. Also, AMD cards suck in anything that isn't gaming - well, maybe an argument can be made for video editing - but, that's about it. Two areas of gpu use - it's good at and nothing else. For over $1k - well, I guess Americans can buy them for below that but anywhere else? No.
We've gone over this, that just isn't the case.
The 7900XTX is 4090 levels of fast in ML like Stable Diffusion, in video editing with Resolve/Premiere, in professional CAD like Soildworks.
It's just as good as a 4080/4090 in Photoshop, After Effects, Affinity Photo 2 and more.
I have no idea where you get this idea that it can't do anything except run games. It's just false.
Have you? I guess I wasn't here for that. I am wondering why your 'take' is the opposite of ppl who participate in the Machine Learning sub, Blender sub, Stable Diffusion etc. etc. - I guess they're lying or you know more than all of them?
I'll give you video editing even though the ppl at Puget Systems who spend their time doing benchmarks and comparing gpus for all that software recommend Nvidia cards. But, I digress.
For ML, it's news to me that AMD cards are just as good or you refer specifically to a 7900 XTX?
https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/xjnozq/d_whats_the_word_on_amd_gpus_these_days/
Post your reply on the ML sub and if the majority agree with you, then I'll retract my assertions/assumptions.
Thanks.
I included all games. That's an average. There's no game that runs 200% faster on a 4090 over a 7900XTX. Is there any software at all that runs 200% faster on a 4090 over a 7900XTX?
But that isn't the alternative.
That's like saying buying a Ferrari is the only alternative to buying a Lamborghini.
The alternatives are any GPU less expensive than $1000. And that's the majority of GPUs.
I would not agree with that analogy but if you want to use cars, I would say it's like a Nissan GT-R is an alternative to a Ferrari. Most of the performance, half the price. And half the price means it's available to a much wider market.
Surely you can see $999 is a different segment to $2200.
You can get a lightly used one for around $800, if there are some good sales this holiday season the price will drop even further.
Amazon US currently has the Sapphire Pulse 7900XTX for $890. Thought I'd share if someone's in the market for one.
Not sure what anyone else thinks... not watching the video... But I am more than satisfied with my 7900XTX. Good card that has performed well for me.
Yes. It's the best value high end GPU on the market with the XT similar. 4080 is a turd. 4090 is now 1800+ bucks for moderate performance increase for almost 2x the price..
so 4080 being 7% slower than 7900xtx in raster at 4K is a turd ?
Its pricing and pathetic vram make it a turd for long term. It should be cheaper than or same price as the xtx at most.
Interesting
Its good, if you have tho money spare, go for it. If youre looking for something reliable for average gaming, a 6700XT is your best friend.
I don't have the XTX just the XT but I've been enjoying the shit out of it. Runs everything at high/ultra 120+fps on my ultrawide 1440p monitor.
Did I enjoy paying $800 for it no, it should be more like $550ish, and the XTX $650-700. But the whole market is screwed in terms of pricing.
Cards like the 7900 XT have not been priced $550 at launch even once in the past 15 years
15 years? What are you talking about? My 1080 when it was new was about $500-550, and the top end 1080ti was only $650ish. Only in the past few years has both AMD & Nvidia been screwing everybody over in terms of pricing.
1080 MSRP was 599, 1080 ti was 699 so you're factually wrong
Personally I use the Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX7900xt, the 7900xtx was provided by AMD as a review unit. The XT is powerful by itself and I didn't want to spend too much hence skipped the xtx.
The XTX is overpriced junk.
1k $, meanwhile in Belgium, paid mine 1700€ (almost 1900$usd) - As rock 7900 xtx aqua - upon release that is. Now i believe it's still around 1400~ish € - close to 1550$.
Was it worth it ? .. definetly considering i'm running the 45"LG monitor (45gr95qe-b) at 240hz oled panel.
Only the 7000x cpu generation doesn't feel like a worth upgrade path (from my 5950x), probably on the 9000x
Worth it for me to go to the 7950X3D (complete new build - thus begins the waiting for the courier period), going from a 2700X/RTX2080 to a 7950X3D/7900XTX :D.
Gonna slap a 5800X3D in the current PC and it's going to the boy, the RTX2080 has held up really well, the bottleneck is really the 2700X.
I had a 5800X, went to AM5 on a 7950X3D, then I last week put a 5950X in the old board for some compute and can manual OC via Ryzen Master to 4.3GHz and the 7950 only hits 4.6GHz at stock with like 10% more performance, so it's mostly clocks and cache stuff.
5950X is a fuckin beast.
Yeah, i agree. i've got mine -30 curve, boost at 5.1ghz on 3 cores at the same time & the rest ccd 0 at 4.9 & the ccd1 at 4.5~4.6ghz all cores.. guess i got a lucky gold chip lol
Zen4 is just faster Zen3 mostly, so fast Zen3 leaves little room for gain, your shit is zooming.
7800X3D is around 40% faster but I guess you don't really need it at that resolution.
In gaming, probably but still need them cores/thread for others stuff.
Specially when my chip goes all cores at 4.6/7 GHz or 5.1ghz of the first ccd in gaming
If you enjoyed tweaking your GPU constantly it's great.
I ran it stock without any changes, and it works great. If you want more performance we can tweak it.
Number of times I "tweaked" my 7900XTX: 0.
I guess that counts as "constantly" these days.
I got mine 2 days ago, Merc 310 7900 xtx. Install it and everything works fine. Until I install the latest driver, halfway through installation and it instantly brick the gpu.
Return it and replace it with a 4080 instead.
Honestly kinda sad because its was the GPU I always wanted, and coming from a 6700 xt. But if I'm spending 1k+ on a GPU, I would like reliability. Rip indeed.
I don’t think so, because two of my favorite games: MSFS for example, the only way to archive solid 60fps on 4K ultra graphics at this price point is by frame generation. FSR3 does not deliverer nearly the same results as Nvidias frame generation can do. Also the XTX sucks for VR, which is important for me in the sim. I can run Cyberpunk 2077 2.0 4K ultra with path tracing, frame generation and DLSS on my RTX4080 at 60fps - and it looks great. Could not get this experience with an XTX. For the same price, I would always choose Nvidia - just because of frame generation.
VR works, I used a HTC vive with the 7900xtx and it worked perfectly.
choose nvidia if you like artifacts, latency and smear from framegen+DLSS sure. If you can't see them, it must be great
Does MSFS really want 60fps? ....
short answer,,, hell yeah!
No regrets, no issues, smooth on 4k TV or ultra wide screen, noise & temp is acceptable. Cost wise, its sad when when the GPU is getting close to a 2nd PC, ie size ram and mHz and some ad or such is offering M.2 space on them also... so its like 2-1 pc's
But then again,,, 24gb, no issues and smo0th
The gpu price fell 10k Indian Rs after I purchased one 🙄
These comments wreak of cope lol
Mean ibguess I'm kinda bias because I've always used amd " yes even when they sucked " lol actually I'm gonna have my first Intel system ever simply because I got the asrock aqua 7900xtx and they only made the aqua motherboard for the z690 and with said i had for the sake of being icd get the matching motherboard but far as the 7900xtx it's done fantastic I love it and I gotta say the more I sit back and observe I feel like nVidia is doing there loyal customers dirty where price is concerned even more so after the pandemic and bow that amd announced they are not making a flagship 8000 series I hate to see what the 5000 series is gonna cost regardless of preference I'd say competition is healthy without it I hate to see what the 5000 generation cards from nVidia gonna cost but let's hope it at the vary least stays the same because 1800 to 2200 bucks is starting to get crazy and as people always say the majority of people don't have the funds for these 1000 to 2000 dollar gpus
I have this card and it is AWESEOME!
My sapphire vapor + rx 7900 xtx out preforms my stepsons rtx 4080. His has slightly better ray tracing though due to dlss. Radeon has fsr3 now but games don’t support it yet.