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A voter-approved Oregon gun control law violates the state constitution, a judge ruled Tuesday, continuing to block it from taking effect and casting fresh doubt over the future of the embattled measure.

The law requires people to undergo a criminal background check and complete a gun safety training course in order to obtain a permit to buy a firearm. It also bans high-capacity magazines.

The plaintiffs in the federal case, which include the Oregon Firearms Federation, have appealed the ruling to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The case could potentially go all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 year ago (170 children)

I mean if a common sense law like that violates the state constitution, it does seems like the problem is in the constitution or how it's interpreted, not the law…

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fixed the headline - Judge rules that Americans need more mass shootings before anything changes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fixed the headline - Judge rules that Americans need more mass shootings ~~before anything changes.~~

FTFY

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This will be overturned. This judge is known for making politically motivated decisions. There is a reason this was filed specifically in Harney County where this yahoo presides.

Guaranteed this is not the last time this will be in the news.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope so, will keep an eye on it.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democracy is when the majority of people vote for a law but because rich people from 100+ years ago say otherwise it doesn't get enacted.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

States rights people really confused prolly.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (55 children)

C'mon, this is easy... all you need is a large gathering of BLM people or antifa packing ARs and boom - this law will mysteriously pass before the media frenzy has had a chance to get it's shoes on.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Breaking: one unelected person with an agenda overrules entire state, imposes his personal interpretation of the law

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People from around the developed world looking at America...shaking my head...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Trust me, Americans who understand what's going on are shaking their heads too. And furiously voting and getting ready to vote. But are there enough of them?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

And the 21st amendment to the U.S. constitution violated the 18th amendment U.S. constitution. They should have passed this as a state constitutional amendment. Note that the judge didn't say in violated the U.S. constitution, just the state - and another one said that it didn't violate the 2nd amendment.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

For reference, the bit in the Oregon state constitution is as follows:

Section 27. Right to bear arms; military subordinate to civil power. The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence [sic] of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power[.]

Pretty similar to the US constitution's second amendment. If SCOTUS was consistent, I think they'd rule in parallel to what's been established elsewhere for licensing, purchasing restrictions, etc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is much more clear than the 2nd Amendment. That mentions the right to bear arms for self defense. The 2nd Amendment mentions the right to bear arms to defend the state.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

So just pass it as a constitutional amendment

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