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[–] yuri 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, what’s up with that? Is it something about not seeing the person face to face that makes us so prone to opening up in this way? The absence of normal social pretense maybe?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People keep their defenses up more when they have to do "facework". If you're not having to make eye contact, it's easier to speak freely.

Even though it's rare these days, it's the reason behind that whole Freudian idea of therapy where the patient lies on the couch and isn't looking at the clinician.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fairness, Freud also advocating giving the patient cocaine to open them up. Tho he's not entirely wrong....

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw an article years ago about the best and worst psychologists, and it listed Freud in both. Almost everything he actually suggested has been discredited, but he made people think about the brain in new ways which allowed people who weren't obsessed with shagging to come up with some decent theories. Truly the Cave Johnson of the mind, throwing science at the wall to see what sticks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Cave Johnson is a great way of putting it. Was he kinda a quack? Yeah... But, did he also advance psychology in a variety of ways? Also yeah.

A different theory I once heard is that a lot of his supposedly discredited theories about early development and fetishes/maternal attachment that arise might actually bare more truth than we realize. The caveat is that they only apply to the super isolated children of wealthy families raised by caretakers(whom Freud almost exclusively did his research on). So some of his "crackpot" theories might actually just be a window into a very specific set of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True, and there are other reasons too.

Knowing someone (only) online means they probably don't intersect with your in-person friends, colleagues and family, and so what you say stays compartmentalised rather than leaking into the rest of your life. This means you're more willing to take conversational risks and be authentic, because it can't affect your other personal or professional relationships.

[–] yuri 7 points 1 year ago

I had no idea that came from Freud! What a mixed bag of a guy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I feel like it's a combination of anonymity making you invincible: If the other person attacks you with the infos you've given them, you just close the chat window and continue with your life.

...and anonymity stopping others from helping you: If you open up to someone, there's an implicit expectation that they should try to help you, if they're not an asshole. But many people don't actually want help, because they don't want to be a burden. They just want someone to listen.
So, you either open up to an asshole (which is how many, traditionally mostly male friendships function), or you open up to some trapped behind a glass screen.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The weirdest part for me is feeling totally comfortable talking on screen about anything, but then when you think about meeting in person, being worried that you won't have anything to talk about and it'll be awkward.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I found the whole experience liberating.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My favorite is when you've been online friends with someone for 10 years, talk for hours nearly everyday, confide in them, think of them as someone important to you only for them to say "you're only text on a screen to me" and then ghost you for 2 years after a mild argument.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I think you met a psychopath

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I spent 8 hours a day for 2 years chatting with my WoW guildies. Never learned their names.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There is a weird catharsis to dumping normally very privileged information on people somewhat anonymously. Like, nothing identifiable, but I'm not gonna casually drop that I received a heart transplant on people IRL with the ease that I can do it here. You don't have to pretend to care if you don't want to, unlike in person where I get the "Oh, what do I say about that?" face.