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Hello! I’m just a guy who saw plex is on sale.

My current setup uses jellyfin, I use FLAC music and 4k films. I use Finamp on my iPhone and the jellyfin desktop client.

Now my question is, why?

Both platforms are great but I’m a guy who likes all free. No farm, no foul to the lifetime pass users of plex though. But I’ll scroll and I’ll see: “100% worth it!” ; “I could never go back”. Now this doesn’t capture everyone’s opinions, but out of the features they display that make lifetime unique is Transcoding (something I think you should have a right to after owning the processor) and plexamp which, I cannot rate its experience, but from what I hear it’s solid. But I’ve also heard it’s got its bugs and downloads can be finicky.

So, as a jellyfin user, why might I care or want to switch to plex?

(I’m not ignoring the issues jellyfin has, I don’t really experience any though and bugs are minimal for my case)

(I’ve posted in this sub instead of plex because I want mixed, not skewed results and yes I’ve searched the history, but I don’t think any question truly validates why transcoding or similar should be a $100+ “feature”. That’s snake oil marketing.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Well, It Just Works™. Until recently I haven't had any reason to change. It's user friendly, easy to set up and looks great.

Though I'll be switching to Jellyfin soon, when I have the time, because (for reasons irrelevant to this comment) my NAS where Plex is located doesn't have access to the internet which somehow means Plex cannot show me my local files which I'm not particularly fond of.

What I'll be missing when I make the switch is an app for Tizen TVs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I don’t mind paying for the past and future development of a service I enjoy. Transcoding is an essential feature for me. While it’s a free feature of the processor, developing software support for it took effort. Other services provide that support for free, but Plex bundles it with other features they charge for. I think that’s fine. As I see it my money goes to support the full experience, from wide app support and good UI to Plexamp and other fun and useful side projects. In fact in a way I am subsidizing much of the experience for free users. Again, I don’t mind, as long as it means Plex’s development and maintenance continues.

I don’t get why people get so tribal about this. I think it’s great Jellyfin is a free and open alternative and if that works for you, fantastic!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I’ve never used jellyfin so I can’t compare. But plex has always worked well for me and I believe in paying for software that I enjoy using.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Plex is still on top for sharing your server with others and offers clients on so many more platforms. My TV for example is a Samsung and there is no Jellyfin app for it. I run both side by side because I prefer jellyfin for use on my devices but there’s a time where having plex there is useful

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Why?

Because I picked up a lifetime pass over 10 years ago, long before Jellyfin/Emby was even heard of.

Back then, it worked perfectly fine, and now it works, perfectly fine.

It has a good app on my Rokus/Shields. It just works.

When, it stops working, or they pull something stupid, I have Jellyfin already ready to go.

Until then though, plex reigns king. (Also, I like its interface more then Jellyfin)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now my question is, why?

jellyfin isn't nearly as polished as plex. it's like running windows 98. emby looks better than jellyfin!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I’ve never used Emby. I will agree though, I just need to use Plex more to not be ignorant of these differences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plex is better in terms of both quality and looks.

Jellyfin user management is easier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes this is definitely seen!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm a quasi-techy with a userbase of one. I haven't tried Jellyfin or any of the alternatives, and I'm not a power-user with all the bells and whistles for things like PMM, Tautalli, Sonarr/Radarr etc so take what I say with a pinch of salt.

"It's really nice."

I wanted my own Netflix. It's super easy to add things, to edit the metadata, customise my libraries and display art. I tried it before anything else and because I literally just want something that manages my films and TV stuff, it does everything I need it to.

If you ever had the satisfaction of going through an itunes library and tidying all the metdata from MP3s you pulled from Kazaa, Limewire, Soulseek etc, it's a bit like that for me. Dopamine-triggering organisation wrapped up in a pretty package that I can add prerolls to when I want that 'cinema' vibe.

Is it the best? Yes? No? Maybe? Am I happy I got the plex pass? Absolutely.

"There are many installations like it, but this one is mine."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It’s not snake oil marketing to charge for features so companies can pay for development.

Youre free to code your own transcoder or spend the time to implement another open source back end of you don’t want to pay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Plex transcoding quality is better, simply.

See my post here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Jellyfin does not have a global auth

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I bought the lifetime pass many many many many many years ago when it was cheap.. dirt cheap and love it.... my family uses Plex daily. We have no paid streaming services and no paid TV services just Plex. Only thing I cannot make work in Plex well is IPTV as xTeve just sucked and was constantly dropping channels because the Channel Guide Feed would have an issue when it was refreshed and Plex would say "sorry no guide no channel" and just mark it not available. It was a weekly fight.

I have over 150,000 FLAC audio files and tons of 4k movies and TV Shows. Kids love to watch their shows and movies as do my wife and I.

I have Jellyfin setup for IPTV and have used it off and on for years. The iOS client has remained "okay but clunky to me." I mean it works, but really gets no love no real updates and while I dont have a great need for Transcoding with Plex it is nice to have that feature. The Roku client is the same. I have mostly Roku TCL 4K TVs and streamers and that client has looked the same and clunky for years. Again it works (explodes occasionally but really it does work pretty solidly) but Plex just brings so much more to it to the media you are watching.

Would I pay the higher price for PlexPass now if I did not own it or just use and live with JellyFin? I would most likely still pay the price (on sale when they send me the discount code) and get the deal. It is just worth it to me.

Also the home user lock down features like I can share specific libraries or just specific TV shows or movies with my kids I like with Plex. Not sure If I can even do that with JellyFin (never researched it so it might be there).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

User management does exist in jellyfin and you can control what library as well as ratings.

You make a good point to. Plex being for profit, can do stuff with the money. In reality, I’d be making an investment into the company which yes incurs its own risks but that’s life.

Thank you, and I will definitely give Plex another shot when I go home today! Will I buy the pass? I’m not sure. I’m more convinced it could be the better option though, even though one is free. I also would love to see jellyfin grow and although I have coding experience, I haven’t the time to invest in learning and adding to a project like itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago
  1. No app. Just web required
  2. No user management - that's handled by someone else (Plex)
  3. Stupid simple (app for everything) so end users (family) don't have to... figure it out. Thus fewer IT tickets for me.
  4. Just works.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

My Jellfin server has crashed a few times for no ryhme or reason without having touched it for a couple of weeks (no patches, no watchtower for docker, just dead). Plex has been fine.

Plex has proper intro skipping.

I was able to set up parental controls on Plex very quickly without any headache.

The wife/kid factor. Plex was/is easier for them.

The amount of time I have invested into managing Plex over the past decade is still less than I have into managing Jellyfin in the past 3 years.

Lifetime plexpass was gifted to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

My two cents.

I was using plex for multiple years (hosted in hetzner DC). I got blacklisted recently. Then the question jellyfin or Emby was asked.

The reply was simple. I'm not alone using it. My mother don't want to learn to install software or any other shit.
She need to start the TV, go to the store and type whatever it is (plex,emby,jellyfin).

The things is, plex was first, and there is plenty official app.
Emby is following them.
Jellyfin has almost no official app on TV, PS4/5, or what so ever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

For me plex just seems to be better in all aspects. It is more "polished". Quick example, I have more than a few movies that are in 2 parts (moviename_cd1.mp4, moviename_cd2.mp4). In plex I see one poster for the movie and when it plays it seamlessly plays both in sequence. In jellyfin I get two posters for the same movie. Very small issue but it is one of many that keep me in plex,

Add to this that the plex app on mobile, smart tv, appletv, toaster, etc just works. If I want to let my family or friends watch something its simple.

Further, plexamp is fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Same reason people pay for windows instead of using Linux for gaming. You can accomplish the same task on both but one has more support and is more mature.

Plex has more quality of life features than jellyfin. And for most, that is worth the cost and closed source nature of Plex.

If you’re happy with jellyfin there is no need to switch. Especially to free Plex.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I used to selfhost both at once and try them but Jellyfin used a ton of RAM when idle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It’s cheap, has more features and just works. The cost for me was <$100 at least 4-5+ years ago and my only issue has been a metadata DB corruption due to an unplanned shutdown.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Is this a jellyfin shitposting sub now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

First, lets get all of this cleared up.

Plex came first. It was a fork of XBMC(which became Kodi).
Technically, most users could just run Kodi with a central library database and get most of the same benefits. The problem is that would primarily work for local players and wouldn't work well for remote operations.
Plex got ridiculously popular back in the day because it had the same attitude as Kodi when it came to addons. There were a ridiculous number of addons that essentially made piracy seamless. So, Plex was a popular option for people who wanted to pirate movie streams, organize media, and do a lot of other things. This is when Plex started to surpass Kodi in popularity.

Emby came second, as an open-source alternative to Plex. One difference was that it never really allowed plugins in any significant way and therefore didnt get as popular. When Emby went closed source a few years ago, some people forked it off into Jellyfin.

Jellyfin came last. Plex and Emby had closed source their products primarily because of remote transcoding. So for quite a while, the transcoding on Jellyfin was trash. It also had a number of weird quirks and bugs. It was fairly half-baked. I personally bought Plex lifetime after Jellyfin came out because Jellyfin wasn't mature and Emby cost money too.

At the end of the day, Plex has actually gone backwards in features because they are trying to be a more acceptable product. This means fewer mods for piracy features and they've killed some of the other features while adding in their "free streaming" options and some other questionable decisions.
But Emby has died and Jellyfin is still a poor substitute. Can you use Jellyfin? Absolutely. Wouldn't even blame you if you do it. You can also run Kodi as described. But I absolutely felt it was worth it to stop fiddling with Jellyfin and just run something that worked and rarely crashed, had errors, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thank you for the explanation! I’m curious about the old Plex. I’ve heard the same about the new though. Installed first and sure I hooked up my libraries but I like jellyfin cause it doesn’t have all the “bloat” but I hear you can “disable it” as well so

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Plex has gotten worse and worse over the years. The second Jellyfin supports Tizen I will probably switch (Samsung TV OS)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Jellyfin is not ready for primetime yet.

Plex just works still.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

In a nutshell, I have no interest in the feature bloat being introduced into Plex. I want a simple media server. Jellyfin provides this, and includes basic features like hardware transcoding and live-TV. I migrated from Plex [free] to Jellyfin a couple of years ago and haven't looked back.

I also am in the Apple ecosystem and pay $10 USD per year for the Infuse app, which is more polished IMO than both the native Jellyfin and Plex clients.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just switched with this latest sale to plex from jellyfin and here is so far as to why.

  • Subtitles just work
  • Remote play is seamless
    • This includes consistent transcoding
  • Chromecast works on iOS!
  • Clients are 1000% better
  • There are clients for almost every platform
  • Skip Intro!
  • Skip Credits!
  • I can download to my device!

To add about my server, it is a xeon 1231 v3, 32gb ram, 20tb raidz1 and a nvidia p2000 on a 200/200 fiber connection (using pfsense).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. What would you say about the clients is better? I know the UI is more polished but again I hate all the extras shoved right at you before your media. (My opinion of course so not true for everyone)

Also download music? Or videos too? Cause that’d be cool to download a movie. I hardly go without internet right now though but I like the thought of it!

Awesome regardless though! Glad you’re happy! I’m still on the fence myself. The sale is tempting. I’d like the ability to refund though and I don’t know how I feel about somethings still.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Clients just work, no matter what I have tried with the jellyfin client on android tv it always fails on first or second load up, also subtitles never quite work as smoothly as they could.

You can download movies or tv shows from your library so you could watch them while without internet, nice for road trips or flights.

Also I use https://trash-guides.info/ for all my setup for subtitles and no matter what I tweak they just are always a little off with jellyfin, no so with plex.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I like Plex due to legacy compatibility. I have an old Samsung TV from 2012 and Plex still works on that.

I don't need to pay anything and I can see my movies everywhere in the world thanks to vpn hosting.

It does exactly what I need.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I really like "Discover" in combination with the play/watch list.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I moved from plex to jellyfin. I was on plex at first because I was a noob at docker, and plex had a simple package install for my Synology.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Jellyfin isn’t even close to the level of polish and ease of use as plex. It’s junk when compared side by side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use Plex so that my family can watch my media on their TV's.

They all have modern TV's but none of them so far come with Jellyfin clients.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Okay, so something I should consider is client support. Thank you!