this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2023
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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I must be doing something wrong. I only see like the same 5 communities, and occasionally several copies of the same post. It's harshing my mellow because i know there's more content out there, i just can't see it for some reason

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah i'm still trying to settle on a default filter. I also have all popular meme communities blocked so maybe this is why, as the bulk of the content is well, memes.

If Lemmy's had a million posts, i'm struggling to see em? My instance is pretty open and has had no defedding dramas AFAIK? (is there a way to see this?)

[–] VraethrDalkr 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For blocked instances, open yours in a browser, scroll down to the bottom and click “instances”. The list will appear on this page.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sorting by All, Local, or Subscribed?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's probably only all communities people from your instance (lemm.ee) are subscribed to.

Whereas someone from lemmy.world will see a different "all" (everything on lemmy.world + what lemmy.world members are subscribed to

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would never see a half an hour old post on reddit hot sort. Look on local or subscribed, and if you want variety sort by new on all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Idk why people want to see half hour old posts. That just makes hot random, not interesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a community for users with strange names?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Is there a community exclusively for users with strange names? And if so, how is qualifying strangeness determined?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hmm, so far I think I still liked Reddit's algorithm better. Somehow it always managed to combine top posts from huge communities (news, videos, etc) with small niche interest communities on the same timeline. Hot on Lemmy feels almost like a random selection of posts to me. What people post here is good, but the way it's selected and sorted doesn't feel quite as meaningful to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think size of the community should be factored into the ranking, at least a little bit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same. I used reddit mostly for smaller communities and the hot algorithm doesn't seem to pick them up here. They're pretty inactive but they do have daily posts. If I don't go directly to that community though, I won't see them. I'm sure these things will be refined over-time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was what the popular page was supposed to do. In reality it just made more subs that I'm not interested in rise to the top instead of posts that a lot of people are interacting with. I don't really care about some random sports teams rare upset that day, or a nitch reality tv show episode that randomly popped into the feed. It's just not interesting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I guess it would be best suited for the Subscribed filter because that would only be topics you're actually interested in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe Reddit's "Best" sorting algorithm did this, but I'm not sure. Looking at it a 4 hour old post with 2 upvotes from a small community is ranked higher than a 3 hour old post with 889 upvotes from a large community.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I agree with this. Reddits best sort or even hot somehow seemed or felt better with what was shown to you.

Although Lemmy ain’t bad and I’m sure it’ll better in time (even if it stays the same still beats reddits bs now)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddits hot page shows posts based now how many upvotes they've gotten against an exponentially increasing negative score based on the age of the post. This prevents day old posts from filling the hot page, forcing new topics to the top and generating new discussions. Here half my hot page is under an hour old, on Reddit most of the hot page is 6 hours or more, sometimes less in my sub feed if it's a slow day. I can't figure out what's wrong with the hot page here, but it feels awful to use any of the filters. I've been resorting to constantly flipping through the various filters hoping something feels as fresh as reddits hot page, but I haven't figured out if any of them work for that yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try the Top Six Hours filter

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Okay, but why aren't those posts showing up in hot as opposed to the 20 minutes old posts with 20 upvotes? Now I can only see what is relevant from the last 6 hours when the hot page should be organized so I can see the relevant news for today at almost any point. Instead it's half filled with minutes old memes. The hot algorithm needs a lot of work.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really like the top post per 6/12 hours, that way you can really keep up with popular posts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is what I have found to work best for me so far. Still learning though!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Sorting by top 6 1/2 hours works very well for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the way. I never realized how much better Reddit would have been if it had a Top 6 Hour choice until I got one with Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s only like that because the community here is much smaller and overall post quality is higher on average.

I agree with you, but with time I expect the ‘hot’ algorithm to need many revisions. Don’t get too attached.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The size of the community isn't the only problem though. The hot page is filled with very recent posts making I virtually random as to what posts you see there. It's not about what post people are upvoting today, there is some aberration that brings up sub 100 vote posts to the top in their first hour over a 6 hour old post with 1000 votes. Active is also filled with days old posts making it useless for keeping up with current events too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's crazy to me. I think the sorting algorithm here is pretty awful no matter what setting I have it in. Linuxmemes, lemmyshitpost, and 196 are always on top mixed in with yesterday's news

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sorting by active instead of hot? I never see old things past several hours unless it's ultra upvoted

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I just sorted by hot and got posts I looked at yesterday

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