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I have come across a lot's of people like these. like 99% of them. Sometimes it makes me think twice if what i am saying is wrong? What's wrong with them. Is it so hard to swallow your pride and acknowledge that the other person is speaking facts? When they come to know they are wrong they proceed to insult/make fun of others to save their ass. Just why?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Because I'm not! I'm not I'm not I'm not!

More seriously, we tend to make it a Great Big Thing when people are wrong. If we acknowledge it and move on, and let them do the same, I'm sure admitting when we're wrong would be much less painful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

because me. me tho

meeeeeee

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Sometimes an idea is so engraved in their heads that they cannot believe otherwise. Also, some people don't like to fact-check. They may hear a "fact" which is popular but is totally false, and they will never change their minds about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In my experience, with most people, his typically goes away as they get older. You eventually hit a point where people's impressions of you dont matter anymore and it becomes much easier to freely admit you're wrong.

Of course, there are people that never grow out of it, and that is often read as confidence. There is a reason that "fake it until you make it" works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I am 18 currently and I have pretty much stopped caring about what others think of me. It just feels as if wasting any more energy speaking to them would be useless. But when I don't defend myself people start verbally abusing me etc. I just don't know what to do in situations like these

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

what to do ... people start verbally abusing me

When I was 18, I started hangin out with a different crowd. ADULTS (of any age). If I was wrong, they'd explain why nicely. And vice versa. Learned a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Same here. I don't call myself a truth seeker because I already know the truth, I call myself a truth seeker because I'm a truth seeker, but I get a more premeditated/artificial vibe from other people. Is it that people forget that leading thinkers actually embraced change? A lot of political theorists, one might say including Karl Marx, are said to have died with different ideas than when they began.

On the opposite end of things, I also get a disapproving reaction when I mention this. I remember long ago I made a fake game picture of a "Pokémon trainer" version of me declaring defeat, which was supposed to be put at the end of discussions to signify I considered myself schooled, and people reacted accusing me of "excess pomp" to quote one person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Because then you will lose yourself. If done properly you will become a new person. Meditation helps to achieve this only.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Because most people have their own idea of what is morally right in the world, and they want to cling onto that regardless of what other perspectives may exist. Both sides do this.

Also, in some cases, speaking the truth about something leads to them losing their jobs or livelihoods.

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

religion exists because people are scared of admitting the thing they devoted their life too is fake and used to exploit you.

it only causes war, inequality, hate crimes, etc

positives from religion? you get the hope that you might go to heaven and do nothing forever (seriously whats your plan after heaven). OR you burn in hell if you make a mistake. oh and you get a specific yet contradictory moral compass to abide to except its interpreted to hate gays instead of pedophiles.

i hate religion, but i think religion should get the treatment the religious right give to the lgbt. religion should NEVER be acknowledged or practiced outside of personal closed doors. i never want to hear about it and it shouldnt influence anything ever. the different between lgbt and christians? christianity is a choice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I suppose the positions you are describing are not reached by reasoning, rather by being part of a group, religion or ideology. In those cases it’s quite clear that they can’t give up the position unless they weaken their ties to that group/religion/ideology, or abandon it entirely.

Some times in their life people are open to big changes, but most of the time not.

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