Glad to have been born at a time when doctors recommendations were taken seriously. Feel really bad for these kids though. I wonder why it’s not considered child neglect or endangerment
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The problem with measles is that it is as infectious as covid and we need to rely on herd immunity (enough people vaccinated so it is harder for the virus to spread[1]) to contain it. So with less people vaccinating means even ones that did vaccinate could still get sick. They will likely not get as sick as without vaccine but that still sucks.
This is why this will suck for everyone.
[1] it is still our body to protect us, but different people have different strength of their immune system. This is why is infuriating hearing antivaxxers that there are people who still caught covid even when vaccinating and not realizing that they are the ones contributing to it.
That’s another reason why this should be considered child endangerment, you’re putting other people’s kids at risk. It’s only a matter of time imo until someone sues an antivaxxer for killing their kid
It’s only a matter of time imo until someone sues an antivaxxer for killing their kid
You'd have to pin it on a particular antivaxer, which would be hard.
you’re putting other people’s kids at risk.
In my experience the antivaxers tend not to understand the notion of caring about other people.
Andrew Wakefield should be in prison for the rest of his life.
Get vaccinated kids
This is the best summary I could come up with:
LONDON (AP) — Measles deaths globally spiked by more than 40% last year and cases rose after vaccination levels dramatically dropped during the pandemic, leading health agencies said Thursday.
It sickened 9 million children and killed 136,00, mostly in poorer countries, the World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a new report.
“The increase in measles outbreaks and deaths is staggering, but unfortunately, not unexpected given the declining vaccination rates we’ve seen in the past few years,” said CDC’s John Vertefeuille, said in a statement.
British health authorities warned in July that there was an extremely high risk of outbreaks in London, with some areas of the capital reporting that only 40% of children were vaccinated.
Immunization rates against measles in the U.K. have never fully recovered since spurious claims that linked the vaccine to autism were made by discredited British doctor Andrew Wakefield more than two decades ago.
No scientific studies have ever confirmed the link, but Wakefield’s research led to millions of parents worldwide abandoning the shot.
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The world: Suffers a pandemic.
Conservatives: Vaccinating is bad!
Turns out conservatism was the real plague all along.
Here in the United States we had increasing Measles outbreaks, and many of them in very liberal areas, well before the pandemic and the rise of Conservative anti-vaccine sentiment. It's mostly because some quack of a Doctor from the UK managed to convince a bunch of granola crunching idiots that vaccines caused autism.
I agree there are a few non-conservatives who believe the anti-science bullshit. But they are a teeny-tiny fraction of the population. They are negligible when compared to nearly all conservatives.
They are negligible when compared to nearly all conservatives.
The idea that "Nearly All" Conservatives, in the United States anyway, are anti-science or anti-vaxx isn't supported by any data that I'm aware of. Having these kinds of conversations on the Internet is always difficult because I can't know if you are a low information Non-American or an American pushing a political agenda. If you're the former you'll like the information and links below, if you're the latter then you'll probably ignore this reply or twist off on some bizarre tangent.
In regards to Vaccines you can pop over to the CDCs "VaxView" system and explore the data for yourself but you won't be able to find anywhere in the United States where the vaccination rate for "normal" childhood vaccines is under 85%, with nearly all places at or over 90%. With regard to Adult COVID Vaccination the lowest State Rate in the country is Oklahoma...which is still at 73.9. There's numerous Red States with Adult Covid Vaccination Rates at or above 90.
So the evidence proves that your understanding is incorrect. The overwhelming majority of American Conservatives are in fact pro-vaccine, choosing to get them for their children, teens, and themselves as Adults.
Anti-Science is such a generalized statement that it's difficult to respond too in a meaningful way but if we can accept trust in Scientists (the people) as a proxy for a trust in Science in general then recent polling from Pew Research shows that 61% of Republicans in October of 2023 trust Scientists "A Fair amount" or a "Great Deal".
Looks like the majority of American Conservatives are not anti-science either.
I myself am not a Conservative. I'm just someone who likes to base discussion on real data.
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Every state has vaccine requirement laws for schoolchildren
Even the Red ones. Huh, imagine that. I also linked you to the CDC data for all age groups and even brought forward the Adult Covid Vaxx rate which presumably would be the closest to supporting you and it doesn't either.
you left out how it also demonstrates that the number of R or R-leaning adults that do not trust science has almost tripled from 14% in April 2020 to 38% in October 2023.
You realize that isn't a gotcha right? Not only is it the obvious inverse of the numbers I posted it also doesn't support your point of "nearly all" Conservatives being anti-science.
Real cherry-picked data, that is.
I disagree but please go ahead and supply your own data. I'd like to see it.
And what’s with your crazy ass Capitalization?
English wasn't my first language.
Those crunchy liberal moms have contributed
There are a negligible number of them compared to the vast majority of conservatives. We are talking thousands compared to hundreds of millions.
I’d be happy that stupid, stubborn assholes aren’t successfully passing on their genes, but of course, they’re doing it in the most painful, destructive way possible. I feel sorry for the kids, and any sensible grandparents who had to watch it happen.
Mmmm. Yummy yummy disease. Slather it all over me.