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Is it worth upgrading to a i7 14700k or no ?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It’s the last socket so why not, there’s apo down the line when they decide to add more games. 15th gen will certainly utilize this so just go for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I did this, also needed to upgrade my cooler to a 360aio so keep that in mind, the 14700k is alot hotter, like alot...

Did I notice anything? No not really, I already had 400fps in cs2 for example, yes now the number is like 500-600, do I notice it though, is it tangible? Not really.

Good to know im future proofed for longer though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It only runs hot with these out-of-control default motherboard settings. Set your power limits to 253W (the Intel spec) and you'll get 96% of the performance (literally) and temps in the upper 70s on a torture test vs instantly at 100 during the same test with the power unlimited.

And before anyone says that that eats into the performance gains in coming from 12th gen, nope. Because 12th gen also needs to be power limited out of the box to 241W (again, the Intel spec) in order to not have the same exact issue. And again, it's roughly that same 96% of the performance at 241W.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Do you have the money to upgrade your cpu and ok if it's already the deadend platform? Yes.

Wanting the highest uplift bang for buck upgrade? No, wait for end of 2024.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I saw my lows and certain cpu limited scenarios improve dramatically. That was very worth it for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same. Did 12700KF to 14700K to pair with my 4090 on 1440p, so basically everything is CPU capped. It’s not drastic but it has certainly smoothed things out noticeably with a small bump in FPS. It’s likely the cheapest way (~$200 after selling 12th gen) to squeeze out a few frames without changing a bunch about your setup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

i got a 12700k with a 4090 and from my research upgrading to 14th gen just gets less valuable the more resolution you have, as cpu becomes less of a bottleneck. for gaming, a 14900k goes from a 20+% fps improvement at 1080p to just like 5-10% at 4K. As I usually play at 4k i dont think im gonna go for it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm out here on a 7700k waiting to upgrade.....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

u cool, i mean urs is as fast is 10400f and 12100f

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Upgraded my 7700k for a 13700k in January. Wasn’t about to play Phantom Liberty at sub 60fps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I upgraded from 3770 to 13700kf after 10years, the CPU runs mad hot at times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I know them feels. I just bought a 13700 to upgrade after years of playing on my 6700. I'm excited to upgrade. Just waiting on my cooler to show up and I can get to building.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

OP the 14700k is a bit better for gaming and you get APO support as well. Better imc could also lead to better memory frequency/timings which could further improve game performance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

At this point with LGA 1700 being EOL you might as well wait for 15th Gen next October as the improvements between 12th / 13th / 14th Gen aren't enticing enough to warrant a in socket upgrade, let alone one that is the same model but newer unless you're running very time sensitive productivity tasks. For gaming, especially at any resolution above 1080p you're not going to see a mind blowing difference. APO is a terrible selling point because what it can be used for at the moment will already run extremely well with your 12700K anyways, but it will be much more matured come 15th Gen. Waiting an extra year for not only a new socket but a huge node shift that'll inevitably produce much better efficiency to performance is the smartest move in my personal opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I upgraded from a 12600K to a 14700K and for me it was worth it. From 6 cores at 4.9 GHz to 8 cores at 5.6 GHz.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people answering, and not even owning a intel cpu, that‘s funny.

I did it, 12700k to 14700k. Same mobo, ram. Added a contact frame, and needed to underclock and undervolt (as i did with the 12700k) with a NH-D15. After a weekend of fiddling around i‘m at 35-37C idle temp with fans off and at max 90C in CB24 mt. Scores are way above anything the 12900k could do, with way less voltage. Also in the most demanding games it gave me a palpable uplift in fps. But i‘m talking high end. I have a RTX4090 and i can see it in maxed out CP77 (pathtracing) i can see and feel it in msfs20 in VR, also simracing, Automobilista2 VR. I really see and feel the difference.

But if you have a mid tier gpu or even a 4070/4080 i don‘t know if it really makes sense. Depends on the game or workload. If you can use your old mobo and can sell the 12700k for 200€/$ go for it. If it makes you happy, go for it! Don‘t expect a generational uplift in performance though. 7-14% depending on the game/programm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I have a 12700k and a 4090 and was planning to get the 14900k (I usually buy mid range but wanted this just so I could have the fastest intel cpu for once in my life). Recently though I have decided on the 14700k since it seems almost as good as the 14900k at 1440p based on the few 1440p reviews I could find. Most reviews are based on 1080p which I understand why but if you never use 1080p it is not helpful. Regarding how you saw an improvement, could you respond with what resolution you saw an improvement? I found your comments helpful but if it is at 1440p it would be really helpful. Thanks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I did this EXACT upgrade… If your asking 12700K to 14700K specifically for gaming only.. while you will get higher fps it won’t be much because the 12700K was barely ever maxed out to begin with at 1440P and up so it will feel like a waste of $ at this time. This will just give you a higher ceiling and longevity. If you do a lot of multi monitor stuff on top of gaming with background applications with discord streaming web browsing etc. the e core difference definitely helps a lot more than the actual P cores. Example is downloading games off of steam. Unless I forced steam to run on P cores with a 12700K the download speed would cap out around because the e cores would pick up that task and couldn’t handle faster than that. With the 14700K it’s not even remotely an issue I get my full 1.3Gbps of speed with steam downloads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Funny, I also did this exact upgrade and also noticed the exact same thing with steam downloads no longer beting bottlenecked. Can saturate my net speed now which is nice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

My 4790k is still chugging along. 😬

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

depends if you're going to upgrade your ram AND mobo. with less than 7200mhz, stick to your z690 and 12700k. with a new 14th gen mobo, get the 14700k and get 7200mhz+ xmp ram.

you cant keep you z690 as you will be stuck with your current ram kit, (it wont run 7200mhz ram). so it wont be as big of a jump. probably not even noticeable in games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Does this ram frequency vs 6400 make that much of a difference ? And how so?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Depends, whats the performance problem your trying to solve. Need some context!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

No, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

4th Gen gang 😎

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I mean every 12th generation processor is a red flag. Even the 14600k performs better than the 12700k, and they have the same price.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I had the same thought ….. I have 12700k …. I will wait for 15 or 16 series ….. it is a decent upgrade for my workstation but i prefer to take a leap in performance not steps 😅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

no.

but if you have the money go buy anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You didn’t upgrade to the 13700k so I would apply the same logic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Just made the switch from 8700k to 14900k, crazy fast but crazy hot. 2x 360mm rads and undervolted still gets up to high 80s low 90s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Only if you don't need your money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Love to redo my 5950x build but it’s hardline watercooled so I’d lose my ass in the sale