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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

fuckgate thegate dustgate namegate gategate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Why does every design flaw from Apple, no matter how minor, get a “-gate” name like it’s some world-ending controversy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Christina Applegate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Cuz the display costs more than half the cost of the whole unit most times… its pretty fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'd thing -gates would be a Microsoft thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Bill Gates graduated to being the target of full blown conspiracy theories.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's just sensationalism. Talk to some people who own macbooks these days that came from windows laptops of the mid and late 2010s, the difference in build quality is night and day. My macbook pro didn't cost any more than any other windows laptop I've ever bought and is the only one that didn't have some catastrophic issue in the first two years of ownership (blown out speakers, frayed proprietary charging cable, broken keys, bulging battery, cracked plastic body etc).

Even in cases of design flaws I've never heard of someone having to pay to fix them even well outside the warranty and applecare period. Similar rampant design flaws in the world of plastic laptops just go ignored.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My macbook pro didn't cost any more than any other windows laptop I've ever bought and is the only one that didn't have some catastrophic issue in the first two years of ownership

LOL

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

My macbook pro didn't cost any more than any other windows laptop I've ever bought

so they didn't have equivalent specs, okay.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

because apple keeps denying that all of these flaws are not flaws but "made that way to make your life better"

so the more flaws an apple product has, the more it's supposed to make your life magical!

if they admitted to errors, then there wouldn't be -gate... for example, butterfly-keyboard-gate - just admit the whole thing sucks and tell the truth. That keyboard sucks.

Same as for the touchbar - you notice they don't say anything about it. Just say "the touch bar isn't performing the way we envisioned it, so we're killing it" instead of saying "touchbar is the greatest thing!" but then pull support and don't update it in the 7 years since 2016 and then kill it silently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can you find me an example of any other laptop manufacturer acknowledging negative things about their own products? Like an Acer representative apologizing for the shitty thermals on their $1000 gaming laptops, for example?

Why is only Apple held to this standard?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the bigger question you should be asking is “why do I feel like only Apple is held to this standard?” Is it confirmation bias of the media you choose to consume? It it their hardware’s ubiquity, cost and blatant anti-repair approach or a combination of all those factors? Possibly.

There’s countless hardware and software flaws and gripes constantly posted here - more so than anything apple related. Scroll through the sub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Just checked, the only 2 controversies in the top list the past 2 months are Apple and Nvidia's 4090 power connector issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both can be held to that standard. Gaming laptops are shit. Always have been

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've not had any issues with my Legion 7 from 2021. Been following the subreddit and Discord, doesn't seem to be any major issues, unless I missed them.

Pretty great PC that can be moved around really easily and the 3080 performs similar to a desktop 3070. Perfect for the super bright 1440p screen it has.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I do really like the legion laptops as well. If a customer is requesting one, i begrudgingly point them to those systems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Pretty sad outlook on solving a problem for people that cannot have it solved by a stationary PC though.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

butterfly-keyboard-gate - just admit the whole thing sucks and tell the truth. That keyboard sucks.

They did. They gave free repairs to everyone with broken keyboards and stopped using that design.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Do you mean a free repair that's on top of the warranty?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Lol, please tell us more bullshit!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Because look how well it works, this is once again an Apple hatebait thread that tops /r/hardware , as is tradition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, Apple has a pattern of obvious screwups like Butterfly keyboard and obsolescence scams like the whole SSD design.

Unless they stop these anti-consumer policies everything Apple does is Gate worthy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Controversialgate?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why is everything compared to watergate? Its ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nixon's real crime was that we still have to put up with this shit half a century later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The real crime is Nixon not being recognized for his environmental accomlishments 😎

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

getting a “-gate” name is a common occurrence in today journalism and not just a single exclusive apple thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Spectacular and embarrassing failure usually gets -gate added. Like Deflategate, and more. Watergate started the -gate fails.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No other 1000+ laptop out there and this isn’t even the M lineup

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Because every design flaw from Apple is a Feature-not-a-Bug™, costs a fortune to fix and they don't fix it for free without immense publicity pressure.

Even then, it's a goodwill, they did nothing wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

"What, take the last 4 letters of a previous scandal or hotel and add them onto all future scandals? That can't be the system."

"I think it is."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The -gate suffix normally means that it’s a controversy, cover-up, or scandal. So if someone feels it’s one of those, it’ll get the -gate postfix. It originates from the watergate scandal, but has become a more popularized suffix.

In short, if it’s a design flaw and Apple is ignoring, downplaying, or denying it, it becomes a -gate since people feel like it’s a coverup. I guess you could also call them a controversy too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Apple set expectations with their marketing, and reinforce them with their pricing. Why does someone always try and defend the richest corporation on the planet when they get caught undercutting those expectations?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

“You are using it wrong”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's the thing with the overblown prices they're charging: makes them susceptible to every minor complaint; and rightfully so!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Of course it has to be a soldered proprietary cable because a $1 off the shelf edp cable would just be too convenient.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I member when the iMacs in the early teens? Had the dust issue in the screens. This isn’t new for Apple or any manufacturer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Louis Rossmann are reporting this kind of fail from long ago. Apple even had to recall some models in the past for the exast same problem after people report them to the FCC IIRC.

In the recall they just added sone millimeters to the cable length and solve the problem, so if this keeps happening it's because they want to. There isn't any something-gate, just an anti-consumer movement.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh God. Saw a lot of people reporting this at various Apple/Mac subs. So that's what it was?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it's a variant of the infamous stage light issue, damaged flex cable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yep. Can't believe they haven't figured this out yet. And if that issue is anything to go by, they will only cover repairs for a subset of the affected models. And tell you to get fucked otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Forbes.con article? That’s going to be a no from me dog.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

why not just say low quality?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

£1700 for an nightmare to repair 8GB piece of junk with thunderport ports that wear out and now dodgy screens. No thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm just gonna save this and will go back to it once it actually happens to my MacBook. By then they hopefully replace the screen for free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

dust can really mess up hardware that is not tough-hardware!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Unpopular opinion, if you let your laptop get so disgusting the soldering shorts you deserve whatever stops working

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

They need to address this with a repair program. It’s so frustrating.

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