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Why does every design flaw from Apple, no matter how minor, get a “-gate” name like it’s some world-ending controversy?
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Cuz the display costs more than half the cost of the whole unit most times… its pretty fucked up.
You'd thing -gates would be a Microsoft thing
Bill Gates graduated to being the target of full blown conspiracy theories.
It's just sensationalism. Talk to some people who own macbooks these days that came from windows laptops of the mid and late 2010s, the difference in build quality is night and day. My macbook pro didn't cost any more than any other windows laptop I've ever bought and is the only one that didn't have some catastrophic issue in the first two years of ownership (blown out speakers, frayed proprietary charging cable, broken keys, bulging battery, cracked plastic body etc).
Even in cases of design flaws I've never heard of someone having to pay to fix them even well outside the warranty and applecare period. Similar rampant design flaws in the world of plastic laptops just go ignored.
The people do love them a good ol' fashioned -gate.
LOL
so they didn't have equivalent specs, okay.
because apple keeps denying that all of these flaws are not flaws but "made that way to make your life better"
so the more flaws an apple product has, the more it's supposed to make your life magical!
if they admitted to errors, then there wouldn't be -gate... for example, butterfly-keyboard-gate - just admit the whole thing sucks and tell the truth. That keyboard sucks.
Same as for the touchbar - you notice they don't say anything about it. Just say "the touch bar isn't performing the way we envisioned it, so we're killing it" instead of saying "touchbar is the greatest thing!" but then pull support and don't update it in the 7 years since 2016 and then kill it silently.
Can you find me an example of any other laptop manufacturer acknowledging negative things about their own products? Like an Acer representative apologizing for the shitty thermals on their $1000 gaming laptops, for example?
Why is only Apple held to this standard?
I guess the bigger question you should be asking is “why do I feel like only Apple is held to this standard?” Is it confirmation bias of the media you choose to consume? It it their hardware’s ubiquity, cost and blatant anti-repair approach or a combination of all those factors? Possibly.
There’s countless hardware and software flaws and gripes constantly posted here - more so than anything apple related. Scroll through the sub.
Just checked, the only 2 controversies in the top list the past 2 months are Apple and Nvidia's 4090 power connector issue.
Both can be held to that standard. Gaming laptops are shit. Always have been
I've not had any issues with my Legion 7 from 2021. Been following the subreddit and Discord, doesn't seem to be any major issues, unless I missed them.
Pretty great PC that can be moved around really easily and the 3080 performs similar to a desktop 3070. Perfect for the super bright 1440p screen it has.
I do really like the legion laptops as well. If a customer is requesting one, i begrudgingly point them to those systems.
Pretty sad outlook on solving a problem for people that cannot have it solved by a stationary PC though.
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-releases-statement-on-rog-ally-sd-card-reader-problems
ASUS statement on Rog Ally SD Card reader issues.
Just chiming in here, as an owner of a $2000+ when new 2017 macbook pro that apparently isn't even being covered despite being susceptible to the same issue. It makes me feel like this investment is a waste and a ticking time bomb.
I still have a 2012 macbook pro in working condition as well, and I expect Apple products to have a long lifespan for how much they cost. Design flaws and known issues must be addressed, and Apple should be held to this higher standard because of their premium price tag and high company market cap value due to their reputation. If they lose their reputation for quality products and support they won't be able to charge premium prices or sustain their valuation.
They did. They gave free repairs to everyone with broken keyboards and stopped using that design.
Do you mean a free repair that's on top of the warranty?
Lol, please tell us more bullshit!
Because look how well it works, this is once again an Apple hatebait thread that tops /r/hardware , as is tradition.
Well, Apple has a pattern of obvious screwups like Butterfly keyboard and obsolescence scams like the whole SSD design.
Unless they stop these anti-consumer policies everything Apple does is Gate worthy.
Controversialgate?
Why is everything compared to watergate? Its ridiculous
Nixon's real crime was that we still have to put up with this shit half a century later.
The real crime is Nixon not being recognized for his environmental accomlishments 😎
getting a “-gate” name is a common occurrence in today journalism and not just a single exclusive apple thing.
Spectacular and embarrassing failure usually gets -gate added. Like Deflategate, and more. Watergate started the -gate fails.
No other 1000+ laptop out there and this isn’t even the M lineup
Because every design flaw from Apple is a Feature-not-a-Bug™, costs a fortune to fix and they don't fix it for free without immense publicity pressure.
Even then, it's a goodwill, they did nothing wrong.
The -gate suffix normally means that it’s a controversy, cover-up, or scandal. So if someone feels it’s one of those, it’ll get the -gate postfix. It originates from the watergate scandal, but has become a more popularized suffix.
In short, if it’s a design flaw and Apple is ignoring, downplaying, or denying it, it becomes a -gate since people feel like it’s a coverup. I guess you could also call them a controversy too.
Apple set expectations with their marketing, and reinforce them with their pricing. Why does someone always try and defend the richest corporation on the planet when they get caught undercutting those expectations?
If it was any other PC OEM the media wouldn't echo that article around the world.