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Picking the proper light switch for all my needs (alien.top)
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I am going to be doing some rennovations and have historically used GE/JASCO with a lot of success. I know there's a lot of hate on them for failing often, but they have been flawless for me.

Fast forward to today w/ a new house, and I am looking for:

  • LED Dimmer
  • Smarthome integrated (will use w/ Hubitat) - Zwave, Zigbee preferred but open to others even wifi I think (I have unifi and can probably tune the heck out of things to make it successful).
  • Motion sensor built in - so that I don't need another one somewhere with batteries etc...

I have only found a couple options so far.

  1. Kasa -> https://www.amazon.com/Kasa-Smart-Compatible-Assistant-ES20M/dp/B09NMX9N24/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2EZ9699129HZB&keywords=zwave%2Bled%2Bdimmer%2Bwith%2Bmotion&qid=1700004836&sprefix=zwave%2Bled%2Bdimmer%2Bwith%2Bmotion%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-6&th=1 -> Wifi, ES20M. Great price. The motion sensor isn'it exposed via any hubitat drivers it appears, but I could probably manage automation using switch status if needed, not a deal breaker. Wifi isn't most preferred but seems like people love the thing. Can NOT be used as a 3-way switch. Deal breaker in SOME locations for me. Totally fine in others.

  2. GE Enbrighten/JASCO -> https://www.amazon.com/Enbrighten-Assistant-SmartThings-Compatible-26933/dp/B071Y38FX5/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2EZ9699129HZB&keywords=zwave+led+dimmer+with+motion&qid=1700004836&sprefix=zwave+led+dimmer+with+motion%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-2 -> over 3x the cost. Z-wave+ and I know what I'm getting with these. Worried about failures otherwise but probably will do the job as well. Can be used as a 3-way switch, so probably my ONLY option for some locations!

I saw TP-Link is starting to come out with more Matter-enabled switches through their TAPO line, but they do not yet have a motion-sensor in any of their released products, not sure if they will or not, or when. I wanted Caseta but they don't make a switch w/ motion and dimmer.

Thoughts on this, especially for folks who have used wifi a lot?

I will likely use Hubitat as my hub as I noted, and integrate it into Apple Home for the UI and control, as well as Alexa for voice control the house through Sonos devices.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Inovelli has a new ZigBee (and zwave version) motion dimmer in development that will use mmwave:

https://community.inovelli.com/t/zigbee-matter-motion-switch-project-linus-blue-series/

Downsides:

  1. Likely won't begin shipping until late Q1 from my best guess.

  2. mmwave performance is unknown especially w.r.t. how fast it will trigger.

  3. Expensive

I'm taking the risk with them as they're the only wired motion-dimmer game in town for us with Hue/zigbee bulbs using zigbee binding.

I have a handful of those ge/jascos and never had a problem, but do think they are pretty ugly and looking forward to finally swapping them all out for a consistent look.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Inovelli is my go to brand, I've replaced every switch in my house. They're coming out with a new mmWave switch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I’ll plug Zooz here. Loved my GE/Jasco but then loved these Zooz more. Z-Wave you’ll pay $30-40 a switch though. I’ve also flashed some WiFi switches like TP-Link to Tasmota and then used MQTT. Wouldn’t use them otherwise — want local without cloud — but that’s me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

What about this from Leviton? Just happened to see it because I’m always crossing up Lutron and Leviton.

https://www.leviton.com/en/products/d2msd-1bw