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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But will they be readily available? The 5600X3D being only at Microcenter kind of sucked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I just bought 5700x 2 days ago. If they make these available in Europe imma lose it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Is there really a market for this? The 5800X is already so damn cheap, I can't see why anyone would opt for a lower clock version for what's likely to be marginal discounts at MSRP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

5800X/3D are not cheap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

5800X3D hasn't budged from €/$320 in weeks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That's what happens when there's a great demand for those chips

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I'm eyeing it and it's been around $300 for at least 6 months (possibly even since Zen 4 launched)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

In Germany/Austria it dropped to 280€ in September, hovered in the 300€ range in October, currently at ~320€

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

5800X3D is only cheap by rich countries standards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure they specifically meant the 5800x without 3D, which is actually quite cheap for what it is, in Europe it goes for like half the price of the 5800x3D.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

it's expensive af in Australia.

5500 is $145
5600 is $210
5600X is $245
5700X is $300
5800X is $325
5800X3D is $520, only $10 cheaper than the 5900X

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If their main use case is gaming then a 5700x3D will probably outperform a 5800x, while still costing less than a 5800x3D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Interesting way to battle 14th gen. Well done to AMD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The 5800x3D which is the best AM4 gaming CPU comes out behind a 13600k in gaming, significantly in multi-thread, and even pricing. The 5800x3d is even behind the 7600.

None of these chips really target 13th/14th gen or Zen 4 performance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oh no 27W! That could cost multiple dollars extra over a year

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

AMD is on par/beating 14th gen with the 7800X3D in many titles. These CPUs are not meant to be top of the line, they are for using silicon that did not meet the quality for higher CPUs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

For people who can't afford the latest and greatest, these will be great. They're also great for people on older zen systems who can't justify the expense of a whole new system right now. And lastly, it shows that AMD, at least for the time being, is supporting their older platform well past its assumed lifetime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

the interesting thing imo is the implications for CoWoS stacking capacity. everyone knows it's supposed to be ramping, apparently it is enough that they can target sub-$200 x3d chips now.

AMD also might well see this as a strategic move to tie up that capacity so NVIDIA can't use it. like even if you make shit margins on the chip itself... you're denying your competitor the sale of a $100k H100. Meanwhile AMD and several other competitors are racing along on their own offerings and ecosystems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

why battle 14th gen when people are still interested in your previous platform? the majority of consumers do not need the top 1% chip.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

the 5600x3d is currently $200 at microcenter, so the 5700x3d will probably slot in between 250 and 270. with the 5500x3d being sub 200

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

May have to get my little bro a 5500X3D to replace his 2x00.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That will be a really nice upgrade for him - it'll be 50-75% faster for anything CPU bound.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Hopefully this will be a wide spread release. I recently paid $300 for the 5600x3d combo and a heatsink. Haven’t even had time to build it. Saw no point paying another $100 more to go AM5 when this offers enough performance I will probably skip AM5 with how long I try to stretch builds.

Hopefully this is widespread so people have a nice budget upgrade on AM4 and nice budget AM4 builds with an x3d cpu. DDR4 is cheaper, and with a budget build price matters.