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Toyota claims its future EVs will have a range over 600 miles (www.engadget.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article mentions they'll do this with "new technology" but following the links I can't find any specific details on what they're referring to. 600 miles of range is a sizable jump from current standards, but it sounds like they're just stating the obvious that eventually we'll hit 600+ miles of range as batteries improve.

To me, the biggest improvements will continue to be charge times. Right now there's such a hard barrier with BEVs when your trip crosses the threshold from "just have to charge before and after" to "have to plan where to stop for hours to charge."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think they said before it will be solid state lithium batteries, which are also faster to charge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Beyond improving battery technology solar might help reach this goal too. The new top trim Prius Prime has solar panels, which MKBHD highlighted can add minimal range. Maybe as solar tech improves they can add more panels to the car and recharge the battery faster.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Solar tech has had a lot of time to improve. Whatever it is that's necessary to make them better, it's not coming anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with your point and the tech has developed very slowly. However, there are interesting developments in the sector. Have you heard of Lightyear? If they can deliver by 2025 it will be a step toward 600 mile range.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have not until now. That's exciting if they can deliver. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A car uses +-100kwt and the sun can provide <1kwt for the car size area. So it'll add <1% to the range regardless of solar panels efficiency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what's the point? the majority of people for the vast majority of trips don't need even 100 miles

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And not everybody has a house with a garage where they can charge overnight. I don't want to have to look for a free charging point and wait around 30 minutes every few days. Also sometimes you actually need to drive far and a short range would be inconvenient or straight up impossible to manage if the charging infrastructure is not good. For example, I live in Bulgaria, in an apartment building without a garage. Even tho it is a small country, it's quite easy to be very far away from a charging point because the infrastructure is poor. If I want to go visit my grandma, that's a 300 mile drive, most of it through underdeveloped rural areas, which obviously won't have a charger available. Until EVs match ICE cars in terms of range they are just not a viable option for me and quite a lot of other people.

Edit: just noticed this post is a month old. I have no idea why lemmy decided to show it in my hot feed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Then you're not doing a long trip.

My trips are at minimum 88 miles, one way. Longer trips are usually 8 hour drives, 4 minimum. So about 250 miles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It always comes down to battery cost reduction. That's going to be the key to 600mi batteries or mass EV adoption.

I think it's possible. By 2027, it'll be obvious if it's happening or not.

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