The high temps i'm sure can be mitigated with good cooling, but what about the high power consumption? Surely that's a strike against it.
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The limits imposed by Intel are for competition: they are uncharacteristically high compared to Intel's established expectation. Up until recently, the i5 series was the best bang for buck (synth score/USD) but now it's a bit more convoluted.
If and when I move to a BIGlittle chip I'll be creating BIOS profiles with either all P or all E cores disabled depending on the task at hand. For each of those profiles I'll have an A and B set for each, one with turbo disabled and one with an optimal voltage/clock ratio laying +500MHz below max turbo. Always C-state enable these days as it's not like the 4K series when switching Cstates caused a noticeable lag when jumping from min to max.
Power consumption figures are kinda misleading because most of them use synthetic benchmarks instead of realistic gaming load, this goes for all the mid-range/high end LGA1700 chips
Techpowerup does have a separate category for gaming power consumption, and their review puts the 13600k at 74w on stock settings while 7700 draws 58w and 7600 draws 47w across the same games, so it's definitely worse but not the enormous difference you see on written down specs
And Intel cpus have a big advantage over AMD when it comes to light tasks, they can do stuff like web browsing, watching videos etc. at a very minimal power draw (5-10w) while AMD chips idle at 30-35w as a baseline because of the chiplet design, this is actually my main worry about 15th gen from intel since they're reportedly switching to chiplet as well
Interesting. So I own a 13600k, but I don't have the rest of my build yet. Black Friday is the plan for that.
I know it's possible to undervolt the CPU and I will more than likely do this. Is it possible to undervolt and overclock? And get better performance AND lower power draw?
I will say I didn't know that about Intel but being one who also does a lot of desktop/browser stuff as well as productivity and gaming that's kind of nice to know.
It's why I ultimately went Intel again this time (Well that's and that's where I got the best deal lol. It was honestly okay with either Intel or AMD). They do seem the most well rounded though, with the only drawback being the power draw/temps as far as I knew, which I do consider to be a bit unfortunate.
12th and 13th gens were fantastic, which is why 14th gen was so disappointing. If they had continued the LGA 1700 trend, 14th gen would be a powerhouse that'd make Zen 5 quake, instead it's a nothing burger. F.
came from i7 2600k (still working) to i5 13600kf my next upgrade is after 10 gens again.
I always thought about i5 as slow processors
Why though?
Got it last week too, coming from a i7 7700k and I love it.
Now I can push the videocard to the limits finally
Before the 7800X3D came around, that was the gaming CPU to recommend. It matched the 7700X in gaming and destroyed it in productivity performance.
It's honestly still worth recommending if you want a more stable and balanced experience with your computer.
Before the 7800X3D came around, that was the gaming CPU to recommend.
I was not impressed by the 7800X3D when it released because of the price. I'm sure a lot of people paired a 7800X3D with a midrange GPU, when in reality they would have been better off getting a cheaper CPU and a better graphics card.
Does the processor or the 13th gens cpu also experience the 12th gen bending issues?
Do we need to also install Intel CPU contact frame?
I'm thinking of buying the 13600k or the R7 7700 or r9 7900.
This issue and the AMD's power efficiency is the only thing that keeps me from choosing Intel.
Honestly I feel like I can compared the 13th gen to the Pascal architecture of NVIDIA's 10 series GPUs, both have great value, they perform really well in their generation, and it's overall fun to use.
Should I order the 13600k or 13700k since it has the same price at microcentre
If they are the same price go for the i7.
Ay, upgraded from an 11700K and got some pretty big gains, and it's cool and quiet too on my Peerless Assassin.
It’s the new 2500k for its time.
I prefer AMD lately , but I’ve been still been saying that 13600k is the best all around price:performance cpu out right now
Probably the best bang for your buck CPU on the market rn
Yeah, I got one six (?) months ago for $250 when microcenter had them for that and bestbuy would price match. I want another one for my daughter's PC (she has a 13100f), but prices are up since. Ugh! Realistically this will be a solid gaming chip for years.
Before I bought my i5 13600k, I ran the i5 2500k for over a decade, I felt they were both cut from the same cloth
A lot of the i9 13900k are faulty just intel won't admit it. So your i5 beating the i9 doesn't surprise me at all in certain cases. Personally, i9 13900k caused lots of issues for me. Especially when turbo boost was turned on. Crashes, applications not launching, BSOD and for made my GPU overwork too. Step 1 was to disable the turbo boost which solved all the issues, then I contacted intel support which without any investigation at all issued me a full refund. Since then I just bought the i9 14900k and haven't had any issues at all. It wouldn't surprise me if the issues with 13900 were the reason for them releasing 14900k so quickly. They just never recalled them or officially acknowledged the issue.
prices are reasonable? Well, I wish
It’s the best Intel CPU since at least the i5-2500K. There’s some evidence to suggest that Intel’s margins are suffering from it, but it’s absolutely surreal that they doubled multicore performance at the $300 price point in two years.
I had a 2500k since release, I have just replaced half a year ago, but that beast would've pulled still if it wasn't for memory speeds....
I5's have always been great.
2nd through 7th gen, they were just basically the same as the quad core i7 but without HT. In an era when threads didn't matter at all.
8th gen it was 6 core without HT
9th gen was a little awkward since 9700K was 8 core and 9600K was 6c/6t.
10th gen was a truly epic i5, 6c/12t. Still holding up today. OC'd like a beast.
11th gen, same.
12th gen, same. my 12400F is rockin as hard as my 12700K does, and the 12600K could OC high
I have 14th gen 14600K which is almost the same as the last gen, but runs a little hotter for whatever reason lol. So maybe I should have actually gone with a 13600K like OP did...
Yes very good cpu I just upgraded to a 14700k today. But I might not have if I had a Z motherboard and could overclock.
But I might not have if I had a Z motherboard and could overclock.
For single threaded performance, it's not really worth the upgrade. But for multithreaded applications it's definitely a worthy upgrade compared to just overclocking.
Indeed I am very happy with it. I was quite afraid of the thermals ( heard a lot of horror stories, but my 240mm aio handles it like a champ). To be honest, I didn't really need it, but felt that with a 4090 I should have at least 8 p cores and some higher boost clocks since chances are I'm gonna be on lga1700 for a long time. I really dont like mobo upgrades....
The i5 13600k I got for $250 and a used 3080 for $400 at the start of this year has been my favorite build to date. Unreal performance for the price.
bro I paid 1,5x of (total of) that for my 3080 alone!
400$ for an used 3080 is crazy good! nice catch!
A friend sold it to me when he upgraded to a 4090. Very cool.