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I saw today new “merch” section below comments. I’m a premium users for a reason, I want 0 ads.

I just canceled my subscription and moved to yattee / invidious for good.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't agree with the commenters in this thread.

An ad is an ad.

I don't care if they're for the youtuber's own stuff. I don't care what their cut is from youtube premium, they can take that up with youtube. I don't want to see any ads of any kind if I'm paying for the content. Especially considering how much premium costs.

Disclaimer; I don't use youtube premium, I use youtube in browsers that allow adblockers, and on android I use firefox with ublock.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Sponsorblock has been incredible.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

no ads, $10/month

no ads except for the channel shop, $12/month

no ads except for the channel shop and products/companies mentioned in the video, $15/month

no ads except for the channel shop, products/companies mentioned in the video, and products/companies associated with concepts mentioned in the video, $20/month

no ads except for the channel shop, products/companies mentioned in the video, products/companies associated with concepts mentioned in the video, and products/companies we think you might be interested in based on your viewing history, $25/month

ads, $35/month

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reading through these comments, I can't help but think there's astroturfing happening here when every single comment seems to be saying the same thing nearly verbatim:

"This is a huge overreaction!"

"Most channels have excellent merch products!"

"I like seeing merch ads on videos I watch!"

It's one thing to have links in the description or creators mentioning their merch in the video. It's a whole other thing to have a banner in the client advertising products that take up nearly the same amount of screen space as the video itself. All these naysayers seemed to have been able to easily navigate to these shops and purchase merchandise before youtube started pushing it in our faces, so why is it necessary now, especially on accounts that are paying for premium? Should we also just accept additional ads outside the video from corporate sponsors since they also fund the channel directly? Where do you draw the line?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Most people see it favorably to actually support creators they follow. Not this guy though, fuck the content creators trying to provide you content and try to make a living out of it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's pretty wild how many people in this thread (and in general) don't see youtubers as a business selling a product.

Its great if you want to buy stuff from your favorite content creators shop, but the shop is there to make money. It makes money for their business. What do we call it when a business goes out of their way to show consumers their products in the hopes that they'll purchase something? an advertisement. This isn't something debatable lol, it's literally the definition of the word.

Its awesome if you wanna support your favorite content creators, it's totally OK if you don't personally mind seeing their shop below the video, a simple toggle would let you keep that. But an ad is an ad, and people are right to be frustrated that they're being shown ads when they specifically paid extra money not to be shown them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

YouTube is also showing products below video listings in the home page. Even before you click on it.

See here:

I pay for YT Premium. This is excessive.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Has anyone brought up how this is just like tipping? Youtube wants me to pay them (rather than the creator) but they decide how much the creator gets and then if I care about that creators brand I can buy creator merch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm fine with the merch window in the sidebar, although lately they've added an overlay on desktop that appears over the video (even in fullscreen) that I think is going to get annoying real quick if they keep it around. If I'm watching a video from a creator, there's a good chance I'll be interested in their merch, and having a standard place for creators to show off merch without having to shill it in every video, is a feature worth having IMO. But I don't want anything overlayed on the video - especially in fullscreen, and if anything it makes me less likely to support the creator by buying merch - even though the overlay is almost certainly something Google added without any opt-in from creators.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Merch section comes up with uBO as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

uBO

I have no idea what that means but my first guess is universal body odor?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

uBlock Origin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ubosoft, maker of games like Far crow, Assassin's Cricket and Rainbow six chicks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't seen it yet, but I've also been free of those adblock warnings.

FF + ubo

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS 1 points 1 year ago

It's not something g that uBO blocks from my understanding. Very few YouTuber even have it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is it only me for who ublock origin does not work anymore? i tried adding filters and updating it

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It works for me on Firefox with all other blocking software disabled (YouTube Enhanser and Sponcerblock)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can enable sponsorblock fine.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This all could be solved with a simple toggle for premium users to choose if they want to see these ads or not.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I am against abusive youtube ads (long unskippable ads, more than 2 ads per video etc) but to me, merch is fine. Merch allows viewers to directly support youtubers since they get the largest percentage of profit from merc sales vs from youtube views. Many of them take the effort to make their merch ads interesting and funny too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, I'd fucking hope so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because you are paying YouTube for no ads not the channel.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I smell tipping culture here.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Youtube is the one displaying these new ads though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's an extension called SponsorBlock that automatically skips past that if you want

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sponsorblock only skips the video. This is about the ads on the webpage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah gotcha. My mistake!

[–] Hanabie 1 points 1 year ago

Definitely needed.

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