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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That's fine by me. No one in my household uses Windows anyways (except for my bitch ass brother); thank goodness. On Linux, I'll have many more years of support with a 500 series. Mom's got a system running Linux with and RX 570. And I have an RX 580. We are very happy. The irony is that Mesa provides better drivers than AMD does for Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So soon???

I hope the EU changes the rules that the vendors provides at least 10 years of support for their products or open source all the software, so others can still provide the support!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

SCREW YOU SPACESHIP!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

"The AMD Polaris and Vega graphics architectures are mature, stable and performant and don’t benefit as much from regular software tuning. Going forward, AMD is providing critical updates for Polaris- and Vega-based products via a separate driver package, including important security and functionality updates as available. The committed support is greater than for products AMD categorizes as legacy, and gamers can still enjoy their favorite games on Polaris and Vega-based products."

Sounds like there will still be some driver updates for AAA titles if I had to guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

meh it's not like as if new drivers for these cards often changed much fps and game crashes -wise. And AMD drivers updates are usually just a 50:50 gamble between functioning and broken af hardware acceleration anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

my 2 previous cards I was forced to upgrade due to legacy drivers (Terrascale 2 and GCN1) as result some games were crashing with no hope for fixes;;; I hope they keep with major bugfixes for a little while :( I don't care about feature parity or the same schedule, just major bugs and some level of optimization for newer games

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Glad I decided to retire my 580 8GB in may, it was a workhorse and played almost every game aside from cyberpunk on max settings at 1080p, it’s a solid backup card for me I guess my 6800 XT is a solid successor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

pls don't abandon my vega 64 lc

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

abandons it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

GF's rig still has VII in it. No please, just no...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's with all the nonsense drama from title commenters ? Those cards will still be supported thru a separate driver.

Having separate driver branches for different architectures is actually a great thing since they don't have to worry that changes in the codebase for one architecture could introduce regressions or bugs in other one for example.

This should actually improve stability of both driver branches and benefit everybody.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If anything, it's massively preferable to what they tried to do with the R9 Fury cards back in the day. Having a stable driver to lean on and then doing security updates is MASSIVELY preferable to releasing a driver package that's completely unified that just so happens to be broken on a small set of GPUs.

I mention the Fury cards because anyone who owned them and used them on Windows throughout 2020 will tell you that the drivers were broken for them for a good 8 months. I bet money AMD does not want a repeat of that, so might as well set a stable driver in stone and give it security updates from there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I buy a used RX 580, would I still be able to download the driver for it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ofcourse. Drivers can always be downloaded, but you wont get newest versions with the latest fixes.

Amernime might be an option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

My 580 should be fine so long as I still have software support for my typical applications. I'll upgrade eventually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Might as well use Amernime in that case

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Kind of a bittersweet day.

Polaris was a workhorse, it put in more miles than I think any of us could have expected, and while Vega didn't sell like gangbusters, those of us who had one had a lot of fun playing around with it.

o7

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yep - Watercooled and custom bios stuff running beyond 1680Mhz. Too bad it lacked proper memory bandwidth. Card would have bin a blast.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I loved my vega 64, i even replaced thermal pads and paste about 2 years ago but it still had overheating issues with the reference design Cooler. But i couldn’t ask for a better 6-year investment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Man, I JUST got an RX 6700 XT. I guess it was right on schedule. I bought it used for a 125 bucks on November 10 2018! 5 years ago tomorrow! Thank you little Aorus RX 580 4GB, you did great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I retired my Vega 64 like 4 months ago and I miss it, still a decent card, it was pulling average 50 fps on CP2077 with all settings maxed out at 1080p.

I really wish we had more consumer cards with HBM-based VRAM, 'cause latency wise + throughput, that thing slays hard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

HBM is super expensive. The whole Vega was just a disqualified computational card sold as a gamer thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am 100% aware of that, it's why i got it used back in 2020 for 230 euros to upgrade from a 1060 6GB.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

So did i had value in a RX580. Watercooled, OC'ed to 1680Mhz and what more. But it was not sufficient anymore so i bought a replacement, a 6700XT. 150% faster at the same power levels. And in 2 years you'll have another good replacement for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ah yes, 'fine wine'...

More like dry wine.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

AMD was doing nothing for Polaris in years anyway

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because there was nothing todo for it. At some point in time you have fixed most performance issues, bugs and other things. The cards simply work as intended. Your not going to keep a dozen of programmers on a expensive payroll just to update the polaris or vega drivers. You focus on the new released cards, RDNA1, 2 and now 3.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They could bring features like RSR or FMF to Polaris and Vega.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

They could bring features like RSR or FMF to Polaris and Vega.

Yes they could; but again what's the unique selling point of newer cards then?

It's a business at the end of the day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You can get RSR on Polaris and Vega by using Magpie. It's a little quirky to use at first, but it works.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

But.. I'm still using my vega 56 to play new games :(

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