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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

lol it’s behind a paywall

[–] taladar 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

“I think (people) were just so used to the way things work,” [Red Hat Vice President McGrath] said. “There’s a vocal group of people that probably need Red Hat’s level of support, but simply don’t want to pay for it. And I don’t really have… there’s not much we can tell them.”

I think he got that backwards. There are many vocal groups whose support Red Hat needs to stay viable and those do not want to pay for the privilege of making a for-profit distro better considering how much pain RHEL already is to work with. Those are the upstream developers of the projects that are distributed by Red Hat and the developers of third party software that runs on Red Hat. Sure, Red Hat does pay for a lot of development but what about all the other projects? RHEL already has a tiny number of packages compared to other distros and its tooling has always been noticeably worse than other major distros and distro families like Debian, Arch, Gentoo,... and I do not see that situation improving if people have the choice to not support Red Hat or to pay for their test and compile infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

But they probably have a graphic that show a point up, this is all a CEO needs to change something like this. Specially now they are IBM

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

hasn't red hat always been proprietary whereas fedora was community driven?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Everything is still FOSS.

HOWEVER, they are no longer dumping the 1:1 RHEL source code. So the changes to RHEL will still be available, but freeloading for-profit projects will have to locate and integrate the packages separately and at their own time and expense i.e Alma, Scientific, etc.

Basically certain companies would sell their cheaper RHEL clones on the promise that they were "bug for bug compatible" with RHEL, but cost a lot less overall, because they weren't shouldering any development costs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Exactly. To add on to this, there were companies deploying clones and then buying a RHEL license to get access to support for all of it. These are the same kinds of people who run their businesses on pirated software. We should have zero sympathy for them.

Projects like Rocky and Alma may have been valuable for developers and small projects, but they were also enabling freeloaders. Looking at this whole thing objectively, it is clear that Red Hat is targeting the freeloaders who run their business on CentOS and are scamming support. That is evident in the fact that they are giving away free licenses for small projects.